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brockmac
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I attended a Mass this weekend where the Gloria was chanted, without accompaniment, in English. I thought it was beautiful. Has anyone else ever heard this?
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Njoki
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hi if u visit my church in katroo, u will hear the chant in PLAIN KIKUYU.wanna give it a shot? hahaaha.
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brotherhrolf
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It was actually pretty common up until the late 70s (?) when Haugen, Haas, et al. started writing different Mass settings.
Njoki, are you in Kenya, South Africa, or the land where the special Birthday Bird come to visit you?
Njoki, are you in Kenya, South Africa, or the land where the special Birthday Bird come to visit you?
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Njoki
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hi i didnt know u would gess that correctly.yaeh am in kenya.
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brotherhrolf
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Welcome to the Forums, Njoki! By training I am an anthropologist and would love to experience your culture and see your beautiful country.
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baltobetsy
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You may have heard the Gloria from the “New Plainsong” Mass by David Hurd. Lovely.
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brotherhrolf
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Is there an MP3 sample out yet?
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VAC
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There’s a collection of English chant mass parts in the Adoremus Hymnal… I was tempted to use them but my music group looked at me like I was out of my mind when I suggested chanting the agnus dei and sanctus in anything other than Latin…so I never attempted that or to put on the chanted English Gloria. In my neck of the woods, it would go over like a lead balloon. I’ve already been accused of playing music that drags
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Njoki
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you mean that?! yeah but u gatta get ready to play the “worlds apart” game.well i assume ur from one of the developed worlds if not united states.believe me it will still b an amazing experience even for an archaeologist.ur really welcome.come with all ur friends.there is always room for everyone in africa .
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Chatter163
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English plainchant is lovely enough, but why settle for a copy when you can have the real deal? A genuine original is always better than an imitation…:tiphat:
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Njoki
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hi.how about those who dont understand the original copy?
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Sarabande
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I haven’t found a sample of it, but you can hear an example of his compositional style on this site.
stmarymagdalene.ca/music.html
Scroll down and find “Love Bade Me Welcome”. I was only familiar with his Plainsong Mass as we do it at our parish, but this piece isn’t bad.
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VAC
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Actually the Adoremus Hymnal came with a set of CD’s.
I don’t remember how much, but it wasn’t too expensive…
I guess it’s all public domain, it’s much cheaper than any modern accompnimant books out there.
I don’t remember how much, but it wasn’t too expensive…
I guess it’s all public domain, it’s much cheaper than any modern accompnimant books out there.
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japhy
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If you understand the vernacular translation, you’re 80% the way to understanding the Latin!
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Cavaille-Coll
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I think I paid about $24 for an Adoremus organ book and the four CD set a few years ago. It was a worthwhile investment.
The “New Plainsong” Mass is very nice, but not included in our hymnals. My parish generally uses Owen Alstott’s “Heritage Mass” Gloria because, along with the Gloria by Judith Hylton, they are the only English versions in our OCP Breaking Bread hymnal :banghead: that aren’t responsorial (have cantor vs. congregation parts) and have the correct translation. Once a month, we use the Latin plainsong Mass parts.
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mercygate
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As an Episcopalian, I used to sing the whole Ordinary of the Mass in plainchant – sometimes in English and sometimes in Latin.
It IS beautiful.
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Cavaille-Coll
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Question: why does the Episcopal Church use a Gloria translation (Rite I) that is far closer to the original Latin than we do?
I love being a Catholic, but sometimes I really miss the Episcopal Hymnal.
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japhy
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Because the ICEL delights in irony?
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mercygate
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In my parish, the organist keeps a copy of the 1940 Hymnal right on top of the console.
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VAC
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we use the chanted Latin ‘Angus Dei’ and ‘Sanctus’ for Lent and Advent.
I cornered our priest a couple weeks ago and sang for him the mem. acclamation from the mass of creation, and the plainchant one and directly asked him which he preferred… He said that the congregation was most likeley familiar with the first, but he hesitated to say that the chanted was HIS favorite… but we could tell it was
. It was during the time I used the chanted English version of the mem. accl. and our Father that I was told the music at our mass dragged.
But Father disagreed and said mass music wasn’t for entertainment, but about Jesus.However we aren’t in a permanent building yet and do not have hymnals or missalettes. We use printed disposeable songsheets.
Who knows what the future hold?. the ‘choir coordinator’ prefers
music out of OCP’s ‘Spirit and Song’ I may have to break out the electric guitar again and find a drummer to go with the flow …just kidding.
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