Gluttony / Hot Dog Contests

[Caesar517]

Please. Is this your solution to world hunger. “America is great”

He said nothing about solving world hunger. He simply stated (very accurately, I think) that the totalitarian governments of third world countries use hunger as a force to control the population. The United States does not. Attempting to solve this problem is not the topic of this thread.

 

[Caesar517]

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe you don’t really understand when the world “disordered” should be used.

Main Entry: dis·or·dered
Function: adjective
Date: 1505
1obsolete a**:** morally reprehensible b**:** unruly
2 a**:** marked by disorder <a disordered room> b**:** not functioning in a normal orderly healthy way <a disordered mind>
(source)

I find eating contests disgusting because they are disordered. They disconnect the act of eating from the reasons for eating.

This sounds like a proper use of the word.

For all I know watching **you **eat **one **hotdog could be disgusting and disordered…

This does not.

It’s all in the eye of the beholder.

I’m not a fan of Moral Relativism.

 

[Ted_in_Charlott]

Clearly the eating contest is part of Nathan’s overall marketing plan and it is working. You are talking about their product. Nathan’s is doing a good thing by helping support the poor and they should be commended.

I also believe this discussion is pretty well defined as more “for” being men and more “against” being women. And that is exactly how I would expect it, having had one of my sisters on more than one occassion telling me or brother that something we did is “gross”.

However, to say that to participate in an eating contest is possibly a mortal sin is just plain ridiculous. Go pick on the Mormons or something, ok?

 

[Al_Masetti]

Clearly the eating contest is part of Nathan’s overall marketing plan and it is working. You are talking about their product. Nathan’s is doing a good thing by helping support the poor and they should be commended.

I also believe this discussion is pretty well defined as more “for” being men and more “against” being women. And that is exactly how I would expect it, having had one of my sisters on more than one occassion telling me or brother that something we did is “gross”.

However, to say that to participate in an eating contest is possibly a mortal sin is just plain ridiculous. Go pick on the Mormons or something, ok?

Personally, I like Hebrew National hot dogs … because, according to their TV commercials, “they answer to a Higher Authority”.

 

[Al_Masetti]

Please. Is this your solution to world hunger. “America is great”

There are two solutions to world hunger:

1. Bring everyone here. We are well along toward doing that.
2. Export free market economics and free politics (“freedom works everywhere it has been tried”) to all those other countries.

I mean, like, India used to have to accept food donations from the United States and other countries. That was when Socialism was their official government policy.

India dropped Socialism and began to embrace free market economics … probably because they admire Bill Gates … and because Indian entrepreneurs began working with American companies. In any event, they produce enough food now for their own population.

So, free market economics also works everywhere that it has been tried.

But we’re off topic.

This topic is about the lazy, hazy, crazy days of summer … Jones Beach … goofy contests …

Personally, I like the way Curtis Sliwa describes all of this summer silliness on his morning radio broadcasts.

wabcradio.com/showdj.asp?DJID=1727

Curtis actually one of what he refers to as “dirty water hot dog eating contests”. But he hadn’t practiced.

eatfeats.com/query.php?_table=eaters&id=3865

 

[thomfra]

He said nothing about solving world hunger. He simply stated (very accurately, I think) that the totalitarian governments of third world countries use hunger as a force to control the population. The United States does not. Attempting to solve this problem is not the topic of this thread.

Not all third world countries have “totalitarian” governments. In fact the good old US of A manages to keep these countries poor by use of subsidies and tarrifs.

 

[thomfra]

Main Entry: dis·or·dered
Function: adjective
Date: 1505
1obsolete a**:** morally reprehensible b**:** unruly
2 a**:** marked by disorder <a disordered room> b**:** not functioning in a normal orderly healthy way <a disordered mind>
(source)

This sounds like a proper use of the word.

This does not.

I’m not a fan of Moral Relativism.

How do you know if you have never seen him eat a hot dog? Who are you to say what is disordered and healthy. What is “normal” anyway. Can one group of people define what they belive and do as “normal” and another group as “abnormal”?

 

[VociMike]

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe you don’t really understand when the world “disordered” should be used.

Yeah, OK. Glad that’s all cleared up now.

 

[Al_Masetti]

Not all third world countries have “totalitarian” governments. In fact the good old US of A manages to keep these countries poor by use of subsidies and tarrifs.

This may no longer be true since NAFTA and CAFTA and so on.

Besides every country is free to trade with who they wish to trade with. Even Cuba has free trade with Canada and Spain and Mexico and others. It’s just that under “Socialism”/ Communism, they just don’t have a lot to offer in trade. Nickel. Copper. Electronic evesdropping bases … such as Lourdes.

geocities.com/dulfkotte/lourdescuba.html

Or “jamming” bases such as the one at Bejucal … jamming our radio signalsl:

lanuevacuba.com/archivo/notic-03-07-1202.htm

 

[Caesar517]

Not all third world countries have “totalitarian” governments.

I didn’t say that all third world countries have totalitarian governments. Many do, however.

In fact the good old US of A manages to keep these countries poor by use of subsidies and tarrifs.

I don’t agree with government intervention in economics, but to imply that other countries ability to raise their economic standards is entirely dependent on trade with one of the world’s many countries is ridiculous.

 

[Caesar517]

How do you know if you have never seen him eat a hot dog? Who are you to say what is disordered and healthy. What is “normal” anyway. Can one group of people define what they belive and do as “normal” and another group as “abnormal”?

As I said, I am not a fan of Moral Relativism. I don’t think this is the right place for that debate.

 

[thomfra]

I didn’t say that all third world countries have totalitarian governments. Many do, however.

I don’t agree with government intervention in economics, but to imply that other countries ability to raise their economic standards is entirely dependent on trade with one of the world’s many countries is ridiculous.

Well, it happens to be the worlds largest economy, what do you think happens when American farmers can flood the market with cheap subsidised goods…? Think about it.