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patrick457
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I’ll address your comment here:To save time, I am going to quote from my own post so you can see whats in some of those gnostic and apocryphal books“Infancy Gospel of Thomas” and “Protoevangelium of James” were foolishly used to support JB Bro’s “3 James’ Theory” in a thread of that name in this subforum. This is from page 4 of that debate. Using apocryphal books to explain Holy Scripture should NOT be done. Its crazy!
First off, apocryphal? Yes. Gnostic? No. About five years ago I made this thread that admittedly didn’t get quite far, but was still a good conversation IMHO. I’ll repeat the thread title: “‘apocryphal’ does not equal ‘gnostic’.”
I think that what really confuses people is how the term ‘apocryphal’ is used. The term ‘New Testament apocrypha’ is often used to denote extrabiblical early Christian literature that talk about the lives and teachings of Jesus or His disciples or some other NT figure in general, their orthodoxy or their content notwithstanding.
Rule of thumb: many gnostic ‘gospels’ are (in a broad way of speaking) ‘New Testament apocrypha’, but not all NT apocrypha are gnostic works. It’s kinda like how some Americans are Catholic, but not all Catholics are Americans.
The Protoevangelium of James and the Infancy Gospel of Thomas are not gnostic. They are, however, ‘apocryphal’ and pseudepigraphical (i.e. they were not really written by James the Just or Thomas).
These two works are basically the ancient equivalent of fanfiction: they were written by authors who tried to fill in the gaps in the gospels and wondered (like we all do): what did Jesus do when He was a kid? How did Joseph and Mary get to know each other? Who were Mary’s parents?
Early Christians never took these works seriously, as something on par with Sacred Scripture; they simply read it as a form of ‘holy’ fiction. That’s what separate these works from gnostic ‘gospels’: the gnostic gospels explicitly claim to reveal some sort of real, secret knowledge that was never passed onto the mainstream and was only being revealed to the lucky few who get to read or hear these texts. (Really, only gnostics took their fake gospels seriously.
Whereas these works, everybody knew that they’re fake, but they never took them seriously anyway. If anything, they simply read them the way we Christians in the modern day read novels like Ben-Hur or The Robe or Quo Vadis or watch movies about Jesus or the saints that contain a fair amount of artistic license and speculation mixed in with factual stuff (virtually all of them do): a form of pious entertainment.
I would actually consider these works to be the modern-day equivalent of the ‘apocryphal’ gospels. For example, Christians might find them interesting and even in a way edifying reading, but no knowledgeable Christian would seriously claim Judah ben-Hur was a real person or that the soldier who won Christ’s robe was really named Marcellus, much less consider these novels and movies to be on the same level as the gospels.
So in other words, these apocryphal literature are nearly worthless as historical sources. Everybody recognizes that: nobody would leaf through, say, the Infancy Gospel of Thomas and use that to claim the historical Jesus really killed people with His divine power as a child!
But that’s not why I quoted those two works. It’s for the other reason.
(Continued next post)