God and Hell

[Homebrew_roots]

As catholic teaching says: if anyone dies in a state of mortal sin, they go to hell. BUT, we cannot judge. The fact is we dont know if anyone for sure will go to hell based on facts we dont know(such as last second remorse or something of that nature). But theoretically a person under mortal sin who dies goes to hell. I think you are missing one thing about God. Though he is all loving and compassionate, he is also JUST. People get what they deserve. If they willingly commit a mortal sin, they are not worthy of heaven, they dont deserve it. That said, none of us really do deserve it, but they REALLY dont deserve it.

Look to the bible. Such as where it says Christ will vomit the lukewarm from his mouth (Revelations 3:16). Being lukewarm are the people who believe in God and do want to be with him, but they dont live accordingly and die in a state of mortal sin.

Shiftscythe:

Firstly, I’d say God has done this before. An example, being when God hardened the Pharoh’s heart, during the Exodus.

But continuing, that isn’t quite what I’m looking at. From what has been said here, we’ve got the fact that God exists in Hell, the same way He exists in all things he created. In that way, He will always exist within those that are damned. And those that are damned, will always be with God, never away from Him.

Now, are you saying that God can’t go to Hell? I don’t if that’s what you’re getting at, but it seems like it.

What I see right now, is that even if one commits a mortal sin, and dies in a state of mortal sin, one isn’t damned. Contrary to Catholic teaching, yes. But I can’t see any other way around it.

Hell exists for those who do not wish to be with God. It is for people who have turned from him, and will never look back. In essence, the people who possess a seared conscience. They have gone so far from God there is no possible chance of redemption. After all, those that are imperfect, that have made mistakes, but still desire to be with God, go to Purgatory.

If this is not assumed, then how could God, infinite in compassion, and infinite in mercy, infinite in love, allow his children who he KNOWS with a little guidance (note: not control), go to Hell for a mortal sin at the wrong time, when they would otherwise find their way to Him?

An example illustrating this, would be… A man committs a sexual indisgression with another man’s wife. The other man finds the two in the midst of their sin, and kills both. Neither have had a chance to repent, so God must judge the condition of their souls, what would have happened, what might have happened, so on, so forth, and figure out if they really wished to be with Him.

The same can be said with old age. We never know when we’re going to die, it is a circumstance we have very little control over, besides eating healthy, exercising, etc… God must judge the condition of our souls at the moment of our Death, regardless of our mortal sins, our venial sins, and decide if we really wanted to be with Him, or not.

If he did not, how could we call him infinitely compassionate, for is he not the God of love?

 

[m134e5]

Hell is the absence of God- and the cardinal virtues that can only come from Him- Faith, Hope, and Love.

Hell is the absence of faith. Beliefs are truly irrelevent. The soul in hell knows God is real, and knows how glorious He is, but he doesn’t know God, and knows he never will- so to find some kind of response to the situation, he hates God.

Hell is the absence of hope. The knowledge that the situation is infinitely horrible, and that it will never get better- and that it will never end. You can do nothing for yourself, and no one can do anything for you- there is no point in having hope, because change is truly impossible.

Hell is the absence of love. God is love. Souls in hell have rejected God and are incapable of loving or accepting the love of others. They hate God because they know who they have lost and can never gain. They hate themselves and all humanity because they are created in His image. They hate all creation because He created it. If God is love, then satan is hate. The souls in hell conform to the image of satan.

 

[TTM]

To avoid going there, everyone please wear the Brown Scapular and live a devout life! Thank God for Mother Mary.

TTM

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

computerguy:

My brother wants me to ask this question for him, I would answer him, but i’m not sure how to answer. So here goes.

"From what I understand, God is omnipotent, and omnipresent. That is, everywhere, and all-knowing. He is the seed of life, etc.

But Hell, is a place of eternal torment, a place “without God”. But if God is everywhere, how can there be a Hell? One could argue, that He didn’t make Hell, and that is simply where one goes when one doesn’t want to be without God. But then, where would the torture, agony, pain, etc, come from? Those are all things of God, used to guide at times. So how then, can God and Hell co-exist?

The two just don’t seem to work."

And thats that. Any (name removed by moderator)ut would be appreciated.

Will

IMHO, Hell is God, as experienced by those who have rejected Him.​

That is just an idea, though. Hope it helps ##

 

[I_A]

m134e5:

Hell is the absence of God- and the cardinal virtues that can only come from Him- Faith, Hope, and Love.

Theological Virtues: Faith, Hope, Love/Charity (CCCC 1837)
Cardinal Virtues: Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, Temperance (CCCC 1805)