GOD and SCIENCE

[MonteCristo]

I wanted to make this post to write about a passion of mine. I would like to share it with the members of this forum.

I found an article that I really, really enjoyed. As a science student, I am constantly both perplexed and amazed when delving into my studies. To know that the information written in my textbooks is based off of the intelligent work of my Creator is indescribable. I know that a majority of the time, some people think that one cannot be both a believer of science and of God. I urge you to look the other way, though. God and science can indeed go hand in hand. . This is why I do what I do; to further discover and appreciate the Creator’s magnificence. This is what I enjoy, and every morning I thank God for another day to be able to see the sun shine and to see his works before me eyes. I urge all of you to do the same!

I would like to know the opinion of you, friends, on the relationship between God and science, and what YOU personally think about it.

Here is the TIME magazine article link if you are interested:

time.com/77676/why-science-does-not-disprove-god/

God bless you, and I hope you all have a lovely Easter!!

 

[womanatwell]

Thanks so much for this link. It is great to see the mainline media admit that some things have not yet been figured out. The tone has been hardline for so long, but with new discoveries all the time showing more and more complexity, it is harder to stand up for that mindset.

I’d like to see Catholics teaching their children, and themselves learning about science so they are on solid ground when they face others who say science has solved or will solve every question and problem. My own interest is in cell biology and organisms, which includes DNA (genes) and proteins with their incredible rarity. Neo-Darwinism depends on chance mutation and natural selection. But this selection is dependent on the chance mutation, so bottom line, the evolution theory depends on chance. Because of extreme complexity, people would appreciate that these could not have come about by chance even in billions of years. After all, we don’t expect brick houses or cars to form even after billions of years without some intercession.

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This picture is of a biological multi-protein machine called ATP synthase (ATP sin-thase). It is in every organism in some form, because it is the energy-production machine. It is found in our tiny cells,the basic unit of biology. The top left part of the picture comes from RCSB-PDB, done by David Goodsell. It is made of multiple proteins and it takes two low-energy molecules and makes them into one higher energy molecule which can go on to carry out cell metabolism. On the right center, it shows the subunits for just one part of the ATP Synthase, and on the lower left is the atomic structure of just one of the 460 subunits of the one protein part. The links below the picture go to first, the source of the ATP Synthase picture. The second goes to the database source for the subunits. The third is for more information on my blog.

pdb101.rcsb.org/motm/72 .

uniprot.org/uniprot/P06576 .

womanatwell.blogspot.com/2016/03/proteins-do-much-of-work-of-cell-basic.html .

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

I wanted to make this post to write about a passion of mine. I would like to share it with the members of this forum.

I found an article that I really, really enjoyed. As a science student, I am constantly both perplexed and amazed when delving into my studies. To know that the information written in my textbooks is based off of the intelligent work of my Creator is indescribable. I know that a majority of the time, some people think that one cannot be both a believer of science and of God. I urge you to look the other way, though. God and science can indeed go hand in hand. . This is why I do what I do; to further discover and appreciate the Creator’s magnificence. This is what I enjoy, and every morning I thank God for another day to be able to see the sun shine and to see his works before me eyes. I urge all of you to do the same!

I would like to know the opinion of you, friends, on the relationship between God and science, and what YOU personally think about it.

Here is the TIME magazine article link if you are interested:

time.com/77676/why-science-does-not-disprove-god/

God bless you, and I hope you all have a lovely Easter!!

My wife and I are both trained scientists. We have never had a conflict between faith and hard science.

 

[Marysann]

I am not a scientist, but I took many chemistry and biology classes in college. This is my take on this issue, and it had always stood me in good stead. Jesus said “I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life…” There should never be a conflict between science and religion. The good sisters who taught us as children showed us that in science we describe and understand God’s creation, and that it tell us the “how.” The ultimate answers to questions of “why” must come from God and religion. I see the study of science honoring God as we grow in appreciation of what He has given us in the natural world.

 

[phantom87]

Thank you for the article , I’ve always viewed science and God as compliments to one another , they aren’t competing theories

Thanks so much

 

[bitterhope]

I’ve always seen science as the study of God’s creation. That’s the way my mom–a scientist–described it to me as a child. My family is full of very faithful Catholic scientists that have found the more they study science they more they realize only God can possibly be the explanation of it all.

 

[MonteCristo]

Thanks so much for this link. It is great to see the mainline media admit that some things have not yet been figured out. The tone has been hardline for so long, but with new discoveries all the time showing more and more complexity, it is harder to stand up for that mindset.

I’d like to see Catholics teaching their children, and themselves learning about science so they are on solid ground when they face others who say science has solved or will solve every question and problem. My own interest is in cell biology and organisms, which includes DNA (genes) and proteins with their incredible rarity. Neo-Darwinism depends on chance mutation and natural selection. But this selection is dependent on the chance mutation, so bottom line, the evolution theory depends on chance. Because of extreme complexity, people would appreciate that these could not have come about by chance even in billions of years. After all, we don’t expect brick houses or cars to form even after billions of years without some intercession.

This picture is of a biological multi-protein machine called ATP synthase (ATP sin-thase). It is in every organism in some form, because it is the energy-production machine. It is found in our tiny cells,the basic unit of biology. The top left part of the picture comes from RCSB-PDB, done by David Goodsell. It is made of multiple proteins and it takes two low-energy molecules and makes them into one higher energy molecule which can go on to carry out cell metabolism. On the right center, it shows the subunits for just one part of the ATP Synthase, and on the lower left is the atomic structure of just one of the 460 subunits of the one protein part. The links below the picture go to first, the source of the ATP Synthase picture. The second goes to the database source for the subunits. The third is for more information on my blog.

pdb101.rcsb.org/motm/72 .

uniprot.org/uniprot/P06576 .

womanatwell.blogspot.com/2016/03/proteins-do-much-of-work-of-cell-basic.html .

How interesting that you would post this. ATP synthase happens to be what we are studying right now in depth in one of my courses, and I see you are from Michigan! (I am also a Michigander! ) You seem to be very knowledgeable of science!

I am so glad you liked the post and article, and thanks for the great reply!

Thank you everyone for awesome comments. Happy Easter!

 

[edwest2]

Thanks so much for this link. It is great to see the mainline media admit that some things have not yet been figured out. The tone has been hardline for so long, but with new discoveries all the time showing more and more complexity, it is harder to stand up for that mindset.

I’d like to see Catholics teaching their children, and themselves learning about science so they are on solid ground when they face others who say science has solved or will solve every question and problem. My own interest is in cell biology and organisms, which includes DNA (genes) and proteins with their incredible rarity. Neo-Darwinism depends on chance mutation and natural selection. But this selection is dependent on the chance mutation, so bottom line, the evolution theory depends on chance. Because of extreme complexity, people would appreciate that these could not have come about by chance even in billions of years. After all, we don’t expect brick houses or cars to form even after billions of years without some intercession.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TSnawtKU...o7g0ebm8gPFHn-lUZOCmiEV-qg/s1600/ATPSyn05.jpg

This picture is of a biological multi-protein machine called ATP synthase (ATP sin-thase). It is in every organism in some form, because it is the energy-production machine. It is found in our tiny cells,the basic unit of biology. The top left part of the picture comes from RCSB-PDB, done by David Goodsell. It is made of multiple proteins and it takes two low-energy molecules and makes them into one higher energy molecule which can go on to carry out cell metabolism. On the right center, it shows the subunits for just one part of the ATP Synthase, and on the lower left is the atomic structure of just one of the 460 subunits of the one protein part. The links below the picture go to first, the source of the ATP Synthase picture. The second goes to the database source for the subunits. The third is for more information on my blog.

pdb101.rcsb.org/motm/72 .

uniprot.org/uniprot/P06576 .

womanatwell.blogspot.com/2016/03/proteins-do-much-of-work-of-cell-basic.html .

Thank you. The tone has been hardline for a long time. One recent error was “Junk DNA” or non-coding DNA. It was a mistake because it is now known that this “junk” is not junk at all.

sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130802101900.htm

And as we now know, the amount of information is greater than previously thought, further reducing the possibility of chance assembly and interaction.

sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131212142151.htm

Such complex coding argues against chance.

Ed

 

[womanatwell]

How interesting that you would post this. ATP synthase happens to be what we are studying right now in depth in one of my courses, and I see you are from Michigan! (I am also a Michigander! ) You seem to be very knowledgeable of science!

I am so glad you liked the post and article, and thanks for the great reply!

Thank you everyone for awesome comments. Happy Easter!

Thanks and hello to a fellow Michigander!

I pray for a blessed and happy Easter for all.

 

[adamhovey1988]

Thanks and hello to a fellow Michigander!

I pray for a blessed and happy Easter for all.

I am not too into science (although I did have a passing interest in evolutionary biology) but my mother’s background is biology. I didn’t grow up in a particularly religious household but my mother did teach us about God. (and my dad was Lutheran, and much of my mother’s family was Baptist) I feel like a lot (though not all) atheist are a bit fundamentalist in their rejection of religion. I don’t believe science trumps religion or vice versa, but that they are a compliment to one another. Christ is risen.

 

[PapyrusDouay]

I feel like a lot (though not all) atheist are a bit fundamentalist in their rejection of religion. I don’t believe science trumps religion or vice versa, but that they are a compliment to one another. Christ is risen.

I agree, it’s ironic, yet interesting how atheism with some folks, has gone beyond mere “not believing” in God, to essentially becoming it’s own religion. Complete with evangelizers, “sacred scriptures”, and all.

The fact of the matter is science and religion are not, and cannot be mutually exclusive. In the end, both are searching for the same thing, and truth cannot disagree with Truth.

 

[adawgj]

Even though I’m studying history in college, I have always been into science. I think every Catholic should have a good grasp of both faith and science as they can often times be intertwined, and not implacable foes.