God created space?

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Hi, I’m just here to clarify for myself. Is “God created space” a teaching of the Catholic Church, or is it just the theological opinion? I’m not looking for the definition of space, but rather, since Catholic Church teaches that God created everything, does the Catholic Church ever taught “space” too belongs to the group of “everything”, or was it just the opinions of Catholic theologians?
 
Is this a trick question? God created everything. he created the universe, and space is a dimension of the universe so how would anyone come up with the notion that he did not create space?
 
No, it’s not a trick question. It is an honest question here.
I know that God created everything. But what I want to know is, did the Church teach that God created space. I know it’s a bit confusing here in my question, but what I am really asking is not the opinion of Theologian X, Father Y, or Dr. Z whether or not space is “something” or “absolute nothingness”. I would like to know the Magisterium teaching regarding this “space”. If it’s “something”, then it is created by God. If the Magisterium has never defined “space”, then I think the answer remained “unknown”.
 
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No, it’s not a trick question. It is an honest question here.
I know that God created everything. But what I want to know is, did the Church teach that God created space. I know it’s a bit confusing here in my question, but what I am really asking is not the opinion of Theologian X, Father Y, or Dr. Z whether or not space is “something” or “absolute nothingness”. I would like to know the Magisterium teaching regarding this “space”. If it’s “something”, then it is created by God. If the Magisterium has never defined “space”, then I think the answer remained “unknown”.
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Since space is there, it can not be nothing. Since it follow then that space is something and the Church teaches that Gog created everything, thn God created space.
 
Okay, I try my best to explain what I am asking.
But before that, I would like to make clear of something.
I am aware that the Church taught God made everything.
I am also aware that there are two opinions on what is a space.
And I think I am also aware that majority of the CAF believed that the space is something, not nothing.

But please, I am not looking for opinions here. I am asking, if the Church actually teaches that space is created by God, or that the space is not nothing, which confirms that the Church teaches that the space is created by God, since she teaches that God created everything.

If you do know that is the Church teaching, please do tell me. Otherwise, if it’s just your opinion, or that the opinion you heard or read from somewhere, and the primary source is actually not from the Church, that is not what I am looking for.

Thanks in advance.
 
Leopardz said:
Okay, I try my best to explain what I am asking.
But before that, I would like to make clear of something.
I am aware that the Church taught God made everything.
I am also aware that there are two opinions on what is a space.
And I think I am also aware that majority of the CAF believed that the space is something, not nothing.

But please, I am not looking for opinions here. I am asking, if the Church actually teaches that space is created by God, or that the space is not nothing, which confirms that the Church teaches that the space is created by God, since she teaches that God created everything.

If you do know that is the Church teaching, please do tell me. Otherwise, if it’s just your opinion, or that the opinion you heard or read from somewhere, and the primary source is actually not from the Church, that is not what I am looking for.

Thanks in advance.
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Please provide what you think these two opinions are to enable us to reasonably answer your question.
 
He’s saying “Is the vacuum of space, which is nothingness that everything else abides in created in the same sense something tangible like a rock would be.” Right? Because I see where he’s coming from - it’s a vacuum that the stars and planets “hang” in. But I would say, yes it is created according to Genesis. Planned out as a vacuum from the start. I think he got hung up on the “nothing” part of it being empty space. Technically it’s not something or nothing, but both. A nothing created with the intention for something in it.
 
WoundedIcon said:
He’s saying “Is the vacuum of space, which is nothingness that everything else abides in created in the same sense something tangible like a rock would be.” Right? Because I see where he’s coming from - it’s a vacuum that the stars and planets “hang” in. But I would say, yes it is created according to Genesis. Planned out as a vacuum from the start. I think he got hung up on the “nothing” part of it being empty space. Technically it’s not something or nothing, but both. A nothing created with the intention for something in it.
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But in order to answer the question in a rational manner one would have to know which definition of space that the inquirer is using.
 
Leopardz said:
Okay, I try my best to explain what I am asking.
But before that, I would like to make clear of something.
I am aware that the Church taught God made everything.
I am also aware that there are two opinions on what is a space.
And I think I am also aware that majority of the CAF believed that the space is something, not nothing.

But please, I am not looking for opinions here. I am asking, if the Church actually teaches that space is created by God, or that the space is not nothing, which confirms that the Church teaches that the space is created by God, since she teaches that God created everything.

If you do know that is the Church teaching, please do tell me. Otherwise, if it’s just your opinion, or that the opinion you heard or read from somewhere, and the primary source is actually not from the Church, that is not what I am looking for.

Thanks in advance.
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This is taken from the Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma. This is a De Fide doctrine. I submit this for your consideration.

"All that exists outside God was, in its whole substance, produced out of nothing. [De Fide]

De fide doctrines are those doctrines that have the highest theological grades of certainty. This too is taken from the beginning of the Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma.

“1. The highest degree of certainty appertains to the immediately revealed truths. The belief due to them is based on the authority of God revealing and if the Church, through its teaching, couches for the fact that a truth is contained in Revelation, one’s certainty is then also based on the authority of the Infallible Teaching Authority of the Church.”

I provided this so that you can see that this indeed is a teaching of the Church. Even though space is not mentioned EXPLICITLY it is implied IMPLICTLY.

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From a technical standpoint, space is defined as a unbounded, three-dimensional span in which material objects* can* manifest. Such manifested objects have position and direction relative to one another. As such, God created space in order to have material elements exist.
 
But what I want to know is, did the Church teach that God created space.
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If you are looking for a direct quote from the Church, CCC or some official teaching saying “GOD CREATED SPACE” you will not find it. Simply because something specific is not stated does not mean it isn’t so. Don’t get hung up on things like this. Suffice to say “All that exists outside God was, in its whole substance, produced out of nothing.”

This is kinda like saying “Why should I obey God? I wasn’t asked if I wanted to be born”. God created the heavens and the earth. He wanted a place to put them, so we can rightfully say He created the space to place the heavens and the earth.
 
Thanks TobyLue.

Another question (for everyone).
Did the Church ever defined the meaning of space?
Yes or no?
 
The Church does not teach on questions of science or physics. It is limited to teaching divine revelation.
 
I have found nothing in church writings that say space is…

Question for you, Why?
 
JimG said:
The Church does not teach on questions of science or physics. It is limited to teaching divine revelation.
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So it means “no”.
oneGODoneCHURCH said:
I have found nothing in church writings that say space is…

Question for you, Why?
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As I said in the first post, just want to clarify for myself.

People, if I start defending myself here, I will look totally uncool.
I see many misunderstanding just because of a simple “yes” or “no” question.
The question I asked was very simple to begin with. One after another think I have something up on my sleeve. It’s really not pleasant to be judged like that.

Did the Church teach “God created space”, a direct quote?
Yes or No?
Someone answered yes. But I was being judged as thinking “if there’s no direct quote, it is false”. No where in my post ever said that. It was just “yes or no” question.

Many ignored the fact that I said I know God created everything.
ALL ignored the fact that I am NOT looking for definition of space, or PERSONAL or THEOLOGIAN or SCIENTIST’s definition of space.
ALL defined space to me.
I am just asking if Church ever defined space, or does it ever say directly “God created space”.
YES? NO? Don’t know?
very simple.
Yet I am judged as asking trick question, trying to debunk something, etc.
 
I think OP needs a good physics book, not a theology book, to find out what “space” means.
 
puzzleannie said:
I think OP needs a good physics book, not a theology book, to find out what “space” means.
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And again, NO, I am NOT asking for definition of “space”.
Again and again, I just want to know if the Church ever defined space? Yes or no?
JimG and OneTrueOneChurch answered it already. They answered an indirect no.

My question was answered by two of them.
I am NOT asking “WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF SPACE”.
It’s very clear in my first post.
 
E.g.
Did James ever go to Mary’s house?
Yes or no?

It does not mean I am trying to prove that James had a mistress named Mary.
 
He’s not asking what it means, he just wants to know what the Church has spoken about it. OP, they probably haven’t spoken about it directly, but since part of the universe is space (definition of space aside LOL) then yes: it is implicitly included in any pronouncement of ex nihilo creation by God.

Sorry about that.
 
Science has shown us that space did not exist 100 billion years ago. So somebody had to create it. Since God created all, that would include space.
 
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