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Linusthe2nd
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And why not, we are praying for you!!! You don’t mind that do you?:tiphat:Wait.
Hold that last post of mine regarding my salvation.
I’m a very loving person.
There may yet be hope for me.
Sarah x
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atheistgirl
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Of course not
I’ve had lots of people say they’ll remember me in their prayers.
I think it’s very sweet.
It’s just like me sending most of you good vibes
Sarah x
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Ontheway
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Forces.
Today’s thunderstorm is a force. It forces me to get indoors to avoid being wet. I can choose not to do this and stay outside. It is my choice, but I can not deny that there is thunderstorm and that it is a force outside myself. I can’t create it or make it go away.
Nature’s force: you were born, like it or not. You are a product of a biological process that is larger than you. A force that you don’t control. You could say that you ignore it, or even claim that it doesn’t exists, but you know better.
You do everything by the power of your own will. You make things happen and make people feel good. You feel powerful in your capacity to affect change. This is great. However, without the power of nature that put you here; that biological pro-creative force, you would not be here. Your power is limited. You are at the mercy of those biological forces. These forces can bring you down as well.
Now about your ethical choices. As you look around you, you may be discovering that the choices you make may be different from the choices made by others. Some people choose to do good, while others choose to do evil. The fellow in Denver, or last year in Norway, chose to do very evil things. You may not believe that evil exists, but it is in front of you. Since this is the case, you probably ask about the source of evil. It has to come from somewhere.
By the same token, the good that people do often requires self-sacrifice and sometimes working against one’s own best interest; working against those biological instincts of self-preservation, etc. So, where do these impulses to do good come from? The impulse to jump into the freezing river to rescue someone, risking one’s own life is but one example. There are many others.
I sometimes think about those early Christian martyrs who were killed for their faith. Someone put a knife to their throat and said “deny your God or you die” – and they chose death. Sometimes, after hours of torture, or by being torn to shreds by wild animals. Were they insane? An event like this happened within the last 5 years in Iraq. A European engineer working on the oilfields was captured and given that ultimatum. He would not deny his God so they slit his throat. They put the video on their TV. It is probably somewhere on youtube.
Why would these thousands of people give up their lives for their belief in the GOD that doesn’t exist?
That thunderstorm and that biological force ” forces” itself on you. You can choose to deny its existence. You can try to ignore it, but it is still there. That evil in the world exists, whether you make claims to the contrary or not. So does God.
You say that there is no proof of a deity. You are right. There are no deities, or rather, there are countless “deities” that people choose to believe in and follow, from Venus de Milo, to Paris Hilton, to Wall Street, or any other one you come up with. The people who choose to follow them are generally disappointed.
But, there is one God and this is a very large difference.
You want palpable proof. Fair enough. God will eventually give it and you will see. He comes to those who seek and you are clearly seeking. But, have patience. He doesn’t come when you demand it. He comes when you are ready to open the door.
With “good vibrations”.
Today’s thunderstorm is a force. It forces me to get indoors to avoid being wet. I can choose not to do this and stay outside. It is my choice, but I can not deny that there is thunderstorm and that it is a force outside myself. I can’t create it or make it go away.
Nature’s force: you were born, like it or not. You are a product of a biological process that is larger than you. A force that you don’t control. You could say that you ignore it, or even claim that it doesn’t exists, but you know better.
You do everything by the power of your own will. You make things happen and make people feel good. You feel powerful in your capacity to affect change. This is great. However, without the power of nature that put you here; that biological pro-creative force, you would not be here. Your power is limited. You are at the mercy of those biological forces. These forces can bring you down as well.
Now about your ethical choices. As you look around you, you may be discovering that the choices you make may be different from the choices made by others. Some people choose to do good, while others choose to do evil. The fellow in Denver, or last year in Norway, chose to do very evil things. You may not believe that evil exists, but it is in front of you. Since this is the case, you probably ask about the source of evil. It has to come from somewhere.
By the same token, the good that people do often requires self-sacrifice and sometimes working against one’s own best interest; working against those biological instincts of self-preservation, etc. So, where do these impulses to do good come from? The impulse to jump into the freezing river to rescue someone, risking one’s own life is but one example. There are many others.
I sometimes think about those early Christian martyrs who were killed for their faith. Someone put a knife to their throat and said “deny your God or you die” – and they chose death. Sometimes, after hours of torture, or by being torn to shreds by wild animals. Were they insane? An event like this happened within the last 5 years in Iraq. A European engineer working on the oilfields was captured and given that ultimatum. He would not deny his God so they slit his throat. They put the video on their TV. It is probably somewhere on youtube.
Why would these thousands of people give up their lives for their belief in the GOD that doesn’t exist?
That thunderstorm and that biological force ” forces” itself on you. You can choose to deny its existence. You can try to ignore it, but it is still there. That evil in the world exists, whether you make claims to the contrary or not. So does God.
You say that there is no proof of a deity. You are right. There are no deities, or rather, there are countless “deities” that people choose to believe in and follow, from Venus de Milo, to Paris Hilton, to Wall Street, or any other one you come up with. The people who choose to follow them are generally disappointed.
But, there is one God and this is a very large difference.
You want palpable proof. Fair enough. God will eventually give it and you will see. He comes to those who seek and you are clearly seeking. But, have patience. He doesn’t come when you demand it. He comes when you are ready to open the door.
With “good vibrations”.
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Marylamb128
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You sound like a wonderful person.I can guarentee you God has big plans for you,you do more than alot of christians,the embodiment of faith is love and God is love,it’s no accident your on here.keep up the good work and you will find God I know your not conciously looking for Him,but he already knows you personally and loves you very much.
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