God existing outside space and time?

[straykat]

Laws of logic according to who? Aristotle? Or some other creature?

And why is time and space the end of logic? When quantum physics demonstrates that a particle can be in two places at once, I think we have a lot to learn about logic and universe still. Nor do we know what dark matter is, even though it creates the majority of mass in the universe. Or black holes.

 

[midori]

I think it’s “God cannot act contrary to his nature”.

It’s one of the examples used to contrast the Christian concept of God with the Muslim concept of Allah. For example, you have the Doctrine of Abrogation, where theologians posit that Allah has changed his mind on various subjects when they come across internal Quranic disagreements-- such as, say, the drinking of wine–; whereas the Christian approach is that God is unchanging, but our understanding of God’s revelations and commands develops in baby steps-- such as, “an eye for an eye” (which limits retribution so that revenge remains proportional) progressing into “turn the other cheek”.

So our God is logical because he is internally consistent-- he always acts in accord with his nature, not because he’s subject to logic as an external thing.

 

[AlNg]

When quantum physics demonstrates that a particle can be in two places at once

I didn’t know that quantum physics demonstrated that. I thought it says that according to its principles, the position may not be able to be determined with absolute accuracy.

Laws of logic according to who?

I was thinking of classical logic. Take for example, the principle of non-contradiction. Would you say that God is subject to that principle, or can He violate it ?

 

[straykat]

I was thinking of classical logic. Take for example, the principle of non-contradiction. Would you say that God is subject to that principle, or can He violate it ?

This is too abstract for me. What do you specifically have in mind? God has made seemingly disparate statements in the scriptures, but these aren’t matters of logic. But law and covenant. The lawmaker can change the law.