God in the Bible!

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Might any of you wonderful saints compiled a list of God’s emotions?

God’s possessions, that is, like arrows and such…

I would like the passages, too!

I have been working on a list myself, but it is slow and difficult. Then I realized, the wheel has already been invented. I would think that saints have done this compilation.

My motto: “I am smart enough to know I am dumb.” So I am a smart dumb or a dumb smart…

THANKS!
 
God’s emotions? I don’t think he has any, unless you mean insofar as Jesus is both God and man. If so, then the emotions of the Incarnate Jesus are the same as man’s emotions (except rightly ordered). However, the Divine nature itself lacks passivity. “I am the Lord, and I change not” (Malachi 3:6). So, I believe this means the Divine nature necessarily lacks emotion, no?
 
I suffer deeply from Bipolar Disorder as do a lot of other very faithful Catholics. I refuse to believe that Jesus did not suffer my pain on the Cross.

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I do not know how to explain God’s anger, wrath, zeal, jealousy and hate (just a few).

The Holy Bible teaches that he has the above mentioned, but how to explain them is beyond me.

I do know that in a sense, He does not have hate and anger. But I cannot explain it.

So I agree with: “I am the Lord, and I change not.”

I have read saints such as Thomas Aquinas, and I agree with those great scholars. I think I should say I believe and accept what they teach. I trust them totally.

So I am still looking for a list of “passions” of God.

Also, things that He “owns”.

Man, that stuff is difficult to write.
 
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I just want to add a personal note.

I do not believe process theology. I do not know much about it, but it sounds wicked.

Back to Biblical teaching, God is said to hate. I know that He does not have human passions!

Also, I am working to understand how God has a home on the mountain.

Again, I know that the Godhead does not have a body, but in what sense does He live in the mountain!

God speaks in the thunder.

I know that it is not from the physical lightning and thunder that He speaks.

These are the things that I want to see in a list or a compilation.

I have some great ideas from the Church Fathers and Doctors, but I am a long way from understanding these things fully.

Also, I have read and studied St. Augustine on the literal meaning of Genesis.

The manner in which he explains day and beginning is most powerful, but it is most difficult to write about such things.

Again, the Holy Bible does attribute anger, zeal, hate and other passions to God. I am trying to understand more fully what the how the Holy Bible explains those attributes.
 
Seamus_Sully said:
I do not know how to explain God’s anger, wrath, zeal, jealousy and hate (just a few).

The Holy Bible teaches that he has the above mentioned, but how to explain them is beyond me.

I do know that in a sense, He does not have hate and anger. But I cannot explain it.

So I agree with: “I am the Lord, and I change not.”

I have read saints such as Thomas Aquinas, and I agree with those great scholars. I think I should say I believe and accept what they teach. I trust them totally.

So I am still looking for a list of “passions” of God.

Also, things that He “owns”.

Man, that stuff is difficult to write.
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He owns the cattle on a thousand hills. 🙂
 
Hi Seamus,

Jesus as man has emotions, so, Jesus being God, we can say that God has emotions.

But God, as God, has no emotions. God is a timeless, spaceless unchangeable act. He has nothing, he IS everything good. He does not have love, he IS love. But he has no heart that can beat, no hormones that can act up. It is difficult for us to imagine love without emotion. But, on reflection, we realize that there are many things we do out of love that carry no emotions. God acts his love. He does not “feel” it.

To round out the subject, we should add that Jesus, who has emotions, is now enjoying the fruits of his resurrection and can no longer suffer. He does not feel pain when we sin, although our sins were the cause of his sufferings. Saying to children that they make Jesus cry is unsound.

Verbum
 
First, I want to thank you for your kindness and concern. I truly enjoy that kind of concern.

I am sorry if I have trouble writing out my thoughts. It is most difficult for me to write.

I know that the Godhead is immutable.

I know that He does not have passions, emotions or feelings.

He does not have passions.

Therefore His passions cannot emote feelings.

However, I am looking for a list of passions that the Holy Bible attributes to God.

God hates sinners.

God has wrath and anger.

God is zealous or jealous.

I know that these passages are speaking metaphorically. I know that all metaphors have a literal meaning.

I am not looking for the literal meaning, but a list of passages of emotions that the Holy Bible attributes to the Godhead or the Trinity.

I assumed that saints in past ages compiled a list.

I just did not know where to look.

I did try a search, but the results were just too much for me.

Again, I want to thank you for your help and conern.

THANKS!
 
Here’s what I see in a simple scientific way, I see the emotions of God as part of a larger cycle of events.

The understanding people had about God has changed over time as their ‘view’ of him developed more and more clearly. (you can say as he reveals more of himself to people)

Emotional God reveals a God that is like a giant all powerful human being.

In the sodom and gommorah story, God doesn’t even seem omniscent. He has heard about how wicked the city is but has to go down to take a look for himself to be sure. Genesis 18:20-21

In the flood story God ‘regrets making people’ implying fallibility.(Genesis 6:5-6)

Later Moses sees God as unaproachable light and realizes he is beyound name and form I AM THAT I AM. To me this is a turning point a step away from the tribal God of earlier times.

God may not have changed but it appears obivous that the ways in which people viewed him have changed signigicantly. In our time Christians hold a much more refined understanding than people did even 100 years ago. (consider the vatican II comaped to vatican I) Just as Children have a different understanding of God (man on a throne with a long white beard etc) from adults (generally)

I think the emotions thing is another example of that. If God had emotions this would mean he could be disatisfied with reality and so be lacking and hence not perfect. It would also mean he was not One within himself but made of parts.

I personally believe you can go on devoloping your understanding of God more and more until finally you realize there’s nothing truly meaningful that can be said about him. 😃

There’s reasons why our understanding of God would have changed I think perhaps a combination of some these facotrs would cause this:
  • Progressive revelation through different prophets.
  • Mistakes by fallible humans in interpreting God’s role in events.
  • God is beyond human understanding
  • God was created by man so the concept can be changed at will
  • God does exist but people sometimes lie about him for their own ends
  • God really has changed over time
One the current developements is looking like being God’s identification with the male gender. A whole other argument. but in a 100 years likely to be viewed differently then it is now.

Cheers
Gareth
 
Verbum said:
Hi Seamus,
Jesus as man has emotions, so, Jesus being God, we can say that God has emotions.
But God, as God, has no emotions. God is a timeless, spaceless unchangeable act.
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Hi
GodAllahYHWH has no emotions, very truely, He has attributes through which we could know Him.
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gocatholic said:
I suffer deeply from Bipolar Disorder as do a lot of other very faithful Catholics. I refuse to believe that Jesus did not suffer my pain on the Cross.

:nope:
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This is so important, thank you for noting it. I know what you mean but this can be tricky in a strictly theological sense.

Yes, our faith teaches us that we never suffer alone (Christ always suffers in and with us, His body.) It teaches us that there is nothing we can suffer, or suffer from, that is not included and incorporated in the Sacred Heart of our brother and saviour.

But, to take you literally, would mean (it seems to me :confused: ) that Jesus suffered all sickness and ailments of mankind in His earthly incarnation/body. This is not true, of course. He was like us in all things except sin; Original Sin has resulted in our physical imperfection and Jesus was not affected by Orignal Sin.

Some of what we suffer is just part of our natural humanity - thirst, hunger, being tired, our emotions of sorrow, joy, etc. The fact that, in our human nature as it is in it’s fallen state, these things and emotions become disordered is as I said the result of sin.

I think you are right, but I think how this occured in Jesus body/heart/soul/mind, on the cross and during His passion is a profound mystery that we, hopefully 🙂 will understand when we get ‘home’.

I agree that Jesus is totally present in and with your suffering in ALL things, as He is with all of us - but it remains that He, in His own life and body, did not actually ‘have’ all our illnesses and diseases.

Someone else can probably say this a lot better than I have, but I was glad to see you mention this.

God be with you - always
 
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