God is learning too?

[Petertherock]

OK, to me this sounds rediculous but this is something my boss came up with. We were talking about the President and who the next President would be and he is a Democrat and he said he hopes Hilary Clinton becomes President. I told him that Hilary would be the death of this country. But I also said that whatever happens I believe will happen because that’s what’s in God’s plan.

He said that’s cool but I don’t believe that God is all knowing and all perfect. He makes mistakes too. My boss used the argument that God flooded the world and burned Soddom and Gomorrah because He made mistakes. Basically he said God is learning how to run the universe just as all of us learn how to do our jobs. Obviously I don’t believe that junk but how do you respond to someone who says something as rediculous as this? Basically, I don’t know if there is anything you can say. Personally, I think the fact that he wants Hilary to run this country proves he is beyond help LOL!

 

[threej_lc]

The answer is free will.

God has a plan for us. A plan that is what is best for us and gives us the most joy.

We have free will to choose to follow that plan, or not. All actions have natural consequences. When we choose to reject God’s plan, it has consequences as well.

Just because God knows the choices we are going to make, and the result of them, doesn’t mean that he doesn’t love us enough to allow us them anyway.

God is not “learning.” He knows it all already. I invite my mom to go to Eucharistic Adoration with me from time to time. She always says no. I’m not suddenly learning that “Oh gosh! She’s not going to come!” each time. I already know her answer. But out of love for her, I provide the option for her so she can have the choice in free will.

Josh

 

[The_Angelus]

[soapbox]

God has nothing to learn. Who could teach Him? What would He learn? Why would He need to learn?

In other words, if you’re omnipotent, omniscient, all-good, all-loving, and all-caring, what more do you need? God’s perfection is covered by all of these. He is omniscient and hence does not need to learn more.

God’s Plan is frankly none of our beeswax. What He wants done gets done, right on His schedule and by His means. As for Hillary makes Sign of the Cross, consider this comparison.

Alexander VI was by most standards sort of a bad pope. He drank, slept around, fathered kids, and generally looked at Peter’s Chair as a license to do whatever he wanted to. So why did God allow him - or plan for him - to be elected Pope?
There are many schools of thought, but my own belief is that God wanted to show that the Church can survive anything. Including Alexander VI.

Maybe God plans to show that America can survive Hillary Clinton; I don’t know. Nobody does. But God did not find it necessary to call down fire and brimstone on Alexander VI. Did he make a mistake? Did he intend Sodom and Gomorrah to be examples of “See, this is what happens to bad people?” Maybe. But since God did it, there’s a reason. Even if we don’t see it.

 

[Liberian]

Petertherock:

OK, to me this sounds ridiculous …

Peter The Rock,

I will certainly agree with your first line.

God lives outside of our space and time, in eternity. He sees everything in this universe, past, present, and future, as if it were spread out in front of Him on a sheet of paper. There is no “past” or “future” with God; He is not “learning” anything.

• Liberian

 

[Pace]

Hell is God eternally euthanising someone.

God constantly betrays us with freedom.

Just adding my two sent(ence)s.

 

[AlanFromWichita]

It is an interesting concept.

If we just look at His results, one view might suggest there was a learning curve between the creation of the first Adam and the second Adam.

It’s hard to tell, though. These surface observations can be deceiving.

Alan