God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything

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The new book by Christopher Hitchens is getting a lot of press. Has anyone read it? Any thoughts? I want to read it to see what all the hubub is about.

Here’s a link for an excerpt:
slate.com/id/2165033/
 
The new book by Christopher Hitchens is getting a lot of press. Has anyone read it? Any thoughts? I want to read it to see what all the hubub is about.

Here’s a link for an excerpt:
slate.com/id/2165033/
It’s the same-old same old. Religion is irrational, bad, evil, disingenuous, discombobulated, defenestrated, and indefensible. Anyone who believes in it, has been flimflammed, hoodwinked, bamboozled, and tomfooleried. I’d wait for the Cliff Notes and History Channel special, if I were you.:rolleyes:
 
I would not want to give him any of my $$$$. Look for it at the Library if you think you need to read it.
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The new book by Christopher Hitchens is getting a lot of press. Has anyone read it? Any thoughts? I want to read it to see what all the hubub is about.

Here’s a link for an excerpt:
slate.com/id/2165033/
  1. People with a religion are human beings
  2. Human beings are seriously flawed
  3. What they do is affected by what they are.
If religion (whatever he means by that) were not a symptom of human wickedness & corruption, something else would be. If we Christians (say) were not Christians & had no God to condemn us for us wickedness & no Hell to fear, we might be a great deal worse than we are.
  1. I wonder whether he examines his conscience or confesses his sins.
  2. God is Great - & God Alone. Sorry 🙂
 
Such people seem to forget the atrocities carried out by atheistic communist governments.
 
You can read comments about the book at Amazon.com. 3.5 out of 5 stars.

Mr. Hitchens may not believe in God, but one day, he’ll believe in the devil. 😉
 
You can read comments about the book at Amazon.com. 3.5 out of 5 stars.

Mr. Hitchens may not believe in God, but one day, he’ll believe in the devil. 😉
By the big smiley face, I assume that makes you gleeful? If you really believe in eternal damnation, I would think it would horrify you.
 
By the big smiley face, I assume that makes you gleeful? If you really believe in eternal damnation, I would think it would horrify you.
Please, get off your self righteous high horse. It’s a winky not a smiley.

I believe that all enemies of God will come to know God as well as the devil. The regret of having not served Him will be far worse than anything the devil can conjure up.

CDL
 
Sounds very similar to Richard Dawkins. These arguments have been around for quite a while, as have answers to them.
 
Such people seem to forget the atrocities carried out by atheistic communist governments.
I think that it is far easier for people to criticize the mistakes of other faiths(and atheism is a faith) then to examine the practices of adherents to their own faith.

It is very dishonest and, I think, shows an immaturity that is troubling.

As far as the book, it sounds like the author is prejudiced against religions, period.

If I wanted to learn about African American history I would not read a book by a Klansmen, why would I read a book about religion by a person that obviously hates religion?
 
I wasn’t sure either if I would want to necessarily support his views by buying his book, but my library doesn’t have it yet. I just want to read it to see what arguments he makes, I guess. I’m still very interested in getting a larger picture of religion in the world.
 
Religion causes wars … God doesn’t. The association between the Divinity and religion in general is far too close for my comfort, anyway. To say God is corrupt because a man-made religion is, proves nothing …

I must agree:

Same old-same old.
 
This guy, just like Dawkins, is a huckster. Just like preachers that say the most extreme things to appeal and market the most fundamentalist of evangelical protestants and in doing so gather mainstream attention because of the extremism. Same thing, you’ve got these guys appealing to the unsuccessful bitter atheist by using extremism to make them think they’re part of a small percent of people too smart to believe in God. In doing this they gather mainstream attention, and sales, because media runs with the inflamatory statements.
 
I love this bit:
The argument with faith is the foundation and origin of all arguments, because it is the beginning—but not the end—of all arguments about philosophy, science, history, and human nature. It is also the beginning—but by no means the end—of all disputes about the good life and the just city. Religious faith is, precisely because we are still-evolving creatures, ineradicable. It will never die out, or at least not until we get over our fear of death, and of the dark, and of the unknown, and of each other. For this reason, I would not prohibit it even if I thought I could. Very generous of me, you may say. But will the religious grant me the same indulgence? I ask because there is a real and serious difference between me and my religious friends, and the real and serious friends are sufficiently honest to admit it. I would be quite content to go to their children’s bar mitzvahs, to marvel at their Gothic cathedrals, to “respect” their belief that the Koran was dictated, though exclusively in Arabic, to an illiterate merchant, or to interest myself in Wicca and Hindu and Jain consolations. And as it happens, I will continue to do this without insisting on the polite reciprocal condition—which is that they in turn leave me alone. But this, religion is ultimately incapable of doing. As I write these words, and as you read them, people of faith are in their different ways planning your and my destruction, and the destruction of all the hard-won human attainments that I have touched upon. Religion poisons everything.
This bloke has the nerve to complain that religious people won’t leave him alone? He’s spent most of his life making a profession out of bothering religious people and trying to convert them to atheism. He’s even gone out of his way to attack religious people whom even atheists admire, like Elie Wiesel and Blessed Teresa of Calcutta. And if he’s so concerned about escaping from religious proselytisers, why did he migrate from England to the USA of all places?

He’s a poseur. Like Richard Dawkins, he’s a grey-haired old man hawking the same old puerile and ludicrous anti-religion arguments which were propounded and debunked in the 18th century if not before. And pretending that they’re the bright new young hope of the world with wonderful new insights! They’re lashing out in fury because they can see that they and their ilk are dying off and the coming generation is overwhelmingly much more religious than their parents.

And Al-Quaeda aside, who are these hordes of “people of faith” who are planning the destruction of Hitchens himslef and of everything that is good?? After the totally unprecedented and uniquely vast mass-murders and cultural vandalism caused by atheists in the 20th century, it’s amazing that anyone even dares to call himself an atheist in the 21st century, let alone to bring up the subject of destruction!
 
wars have been started over love. people have died because of love. people have killed and poisoned over love. should we do away with love?

[Origin: 1150–1200; ME religioun (< OF religion) <latin religiōn- (s. of religiō) conscientiousness, piety, equiv. to relig(āre) to tie, fasten** (re- re- + ligāre to bind, tie; cf. ligament) + -iōn- -ion; cf. rely]

we lost the true meaning of the word religion. It means to “bind”.

in practicing our faith we bind ourselves to God.
 
Hitch can be brilliant and very insightful. But when he gets on religion, the blinders come on and he loses all objectivity and common sense. The man hates religion and can’t see any difference between Thomas Aquinas and a crazed suicide bomber. They both believe in God and therefore they are both evil.

Poor Hitch. But Malcolm Muggeridge was a bit like that, and he became a Christian. God works in mysterious ways - pray for the man.
 
Here’s an awesome article written by Christopher Hitchens’ brother, Peter. Poignant and insightful.
 
The new book by Christopher Hitchens is getting a lot of press. Has anyone read it? Any thoughts? I want to read it to see what all the hubub is about.

Here’s a link for an excerpt:
slate.com/id/2165033/
I haven’t read this book, nor do i intend to, but i wonder if you know that even this mans own brother (Peter Hitchins - Daily Mail columnist UK) has condemed this book.
Check out this link to read his two page spread.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/newscomment.html?in_article_id=459427&in_page_id=1787

Suze
 
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