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Contarini
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In a now closed thread, I wrote that the most direct speaking God had ever done to anyone was when Jesus walked around on earth. My point was that any language in the OT about God speaking to people should be understood as less direct than that.
Manualman responded:
Indeed, if I were to criticize my own original statement on further reflection, it would be in this direction–that Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would lead us into fuller truth, and thus one could argue that Christians hear from God even more directly than Jesus’ earthly disciples did, and thus still more directly than OT saints. But I’m not sure I’m willing to push the argument that far.
Edwin
Manualman responded:
I didn’t say that. I was speaking of Jesus actually walking around in the flesh, not of our situation today. However, yes I think I would say that believers under the NT have more direct access to God than believers in the OT. Does that mean that you or I have heard God speaking more directly than Abraham or Moses did? Not necessarily. I think the case of an extraordinary saint in the OT and a “regular” believer in the NT would be hard to compare. But I think I would claim that the great saints of the New Covenant, not just in NT times but since (St. Francis, for instance) communicated with God more directly than was possible for anyone in the OT.Is that just your assertion? Are you implying that Moses didn’t receive any more clear instruction from God than you and I have had in our lives? Abraham? David?
Indeed, if I were to criticize my own original statement on further reflection, it would be in this direction–that Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would lead us into fuller truth, and thus one could argue that Christians hear from God even more directly than Jesus’ earthly disciples did, and thus still more directly than OT saints. But I’m not sure I’m willing to push the argument that far.
Edwin