God

[lemonbeam]

An atheist sent this to me, when I asked him why he doesn’t believe in God:

‘‘The world seems to work and make sense without one so I don’t see how adding one really makes logical sense.’’

But why isn’t the question why does the world work in the way it does? With all the laws etc. Something can not come from nothing. There has to be a cause.

 

[Squishy]

An atheist sent this to me, when I asked him why he doesn’t believe in God:

‘‘The world seems to work and make sense without one so I don’t see how adding one really makes logical sense.’’

But why isn’t the question why does the world work in the way it does? With all the laws etc. Something can not come from nothing. There has to be a cause.

From our understanding of things their must be a cause. (this doesnt have to be the case though) Taking that understanding we accept their must be a cause for everything. The real why is why do we have to know what it is. Why do we have to try and label it as God. Why cannot we just say.

‘I don’t know’

This is the most honoust answer anyone can give. The world works, day to day without having to invoke the idea of a God. Unlike our ancestors, who to explain many everyday occurances had to resort to the idea of a God or Gods controlling the world. We do not have that limitation any more. We are restricted to much bigger questions about how the universe came to be. For joe blogs how the universe came to be is not going to affect weather the sun comes up the next morning. Or if his crops will grow that year. We have got past the point where we have to invoke the idea of a God.

We can just accept the not knowing. And quest to find the truth of how the universe came to be. Its better to be open to all possibilities than to settle on one. That is unsubstantiable.

 

[Mark77]

From our understanding of things their must be a cause. (this doesnt have to be the case though) Taking that understanding we accept their must be a cause for everything. The real why is why do we have to know what it is. Why do we have to try and label it as God. Why cannot we just say.

‘I don’t know’

This is the most honoust answer anyone can give. The world works, day to day without having to invoke the idea of a God. Unlike our ancestors, who to explain many everyday occurances had to resort to the idea of a God or Gods controlling the world. We do not have that limitation any more. We are restricted to much bigger questions about how the universe came to be. For joe blogs how the universe came to be is not going to affect weather the sun comes up the next morning. Or if his crops will grow that year. We have got past the point where we have to invoke the idea of a God.

We can just accept the not knowing. And quest to find the truth of how the universe came to be. Its better to be open to all possibilities than to settle on one. That is unsubstantiable.

So Squishy, you truly believe that “I don’t know” created this most exquisite, perfectly organized, intricate and unique universe that we live in?

“I don’t know” is the most dishonest answer we can give!

We “know” many things, first of all we know that “we know”. Self-awareness is not a trait that other creatures like the monkeys or the chimps,or the cats have.

We “know” that each human being has a unique DNA made up of over 3 billion characters, encrypted in 4 letter groups, present from the instant of conception.

We “know” that the universe is nearly infinite, yet each atom, even each sub-atomic particle inside each atom, in that nearly infinite universe, follows a precise set of rules or laws that determine their actions.

We “know” that we didn’t just appear because of a random mistake billions of years ago.

We “know” that a flower is beautiful, that a sunset is breathtaking, that life is a gift of love.

We “know” that a baby is precious.

We “know” what beauty is. We “know” what Truth is!

We “know” that God exists, even though we don’t “know” how or why.

We “know” God loves us, we just don’t “know” why!!

"Jesus answered them, “Have faith in God.” Mk 11:22

The Catholic Church reveals the Truth of Jesus Christ in the Catechism; “Faith is man’s response to God, who reveals Himself to man, at the same time bringing man a superabundant light as he searches for the ultimate meaning of his life” (CCC 26).

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark

 

[fhansen]

So Squishy, you truly believe that “I don’t know” created this most exquisite, perfectly organized, intricate and unique universe that we live in?

“I don’t know” is the most dishonest answer we can give!

We “know” many things, first of all we know that “we know”. Self-awareness is not a trait that other creatures like the monkeys or the chimps,or the cats have.

We “know” that each human being has a unique DNA made up of over 3 billion characters, encrypted in 4 letter groups, present from the instant of conception.

We “know” that the universe is nearly infinite, yet each atom, even each sub-atomic particle inside each atom, in that nearly infinite universe, follows a precise set of rules or laws that determine their actions.

We “know” that we didn’t just appear because of a random mistake billions of years ago.

We “know” that a flower is beautiful, that a sunset is breathtaking, that life is a gift of love.

We “know” that a baby is precious.

We “know” what beauty is. We “know” what Truth is!

We “know” that God exists, even though we don’t “know” how or why.

We “know” God loves us, we just don’t “know” why!!

"Jesus answered them, “Have faith in God.” Mk 11:22

The Catholic Church reveals the Truth of Jesus Christ in the Catechism; “Faith is man’s response to God, who reveals Himself to man, at the same time bringing man a superabundant light as he searches for the ultimate meaning of his life” (CCC 26).

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark

That was good, except for the term “nearly infinite”. I think that’d be harder to wrap ones head around than merely infinite.

 

[fhansen]

An atheist sent this to me, when I asked him why he doesn’t believe in God:

‘‘The world seems to work and make sense without one so I don’t see how adding one really makes logical sense.’’

But why isn’t the question why does the world work in the way it does? With all the laws etc. Something can not come from nothing. There has to be a cause.

**The world makes no sense to me at all-it’s a big question mark without God, because then I have no idea where I came from, if anywhere- no idea what I’m here for, if anything-and no idea where I’m going, if anywhere. And I think that condition aptly describes the term “lost”.
**

 

[promethius]

An atheist sent this to me, when I asked him why he doesn’t believe in God:

‘‘The world seems to work and make sense without one so I don’t see how adding one really makes logical sense.’’

But why isn’t the question why does the world work in the way it does? With all the laws etc. Something can not come from nothing. There has to be a cause.

That’s stupid. It’s not even scientific thought. In the 1800s, scientists believed that heat and light propegated through something called ether. Of course it didn’t exist. But their reluctance to come to grips with induction and light waves in modern science stemmed from the same sort of terrible logic: “it seems to work and make sense with this explanation.”

The problem is that something can SEEM to work and make sense without ACTUALLY being the correct answer. To argue that it COULD make sense without God, therefore there is no God is a terribly logically faulty argument.

 

[CSUNGerrie]

It makes alot of sense why there are people who are starving in the world when others literally throw away food. It makes sense why with countries with greater wealth tend to have the highest suicide. It makes sense why we have bigger houses but smaller families. It makes sense how a couple could choose to kill their unborn child. Or why there are child prostitution homes.

Exactly how does your atheist friend think the world make sense?
I take it he/she meant from a scientific perspective it makes sense. And yet, even here the statement isnt accurate. Chesterton wrote, “The real trouble with this world of ours is not that it is an unreasonable world, nor even that it is a reasonable one. The commonest kind of trouble is that it is nearly reasonable, but not quite.”

I think I will start a threat on that quote. I have always found it fascinating.