God's being is good?

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What does Aquinas mean when he says god’s goodness is his being. Or his being is his goodness? I am thinking that “bad” is a human idea. Because good is being and we are being that is “good”…right?

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What does Aquinas mean when he says god’s goodness is his being. Or his being is his goodness? I am thinking that “bad” is a human idea. Because good is being and we are being that is “good”…right?

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Sorry I meant Because god is being and we are being that is “good”. “And god saw that it was good.”

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What does Aquinas mean when he says god’s goodness is his being. Or his being is his goodness?
Existing is an action. We usually think of action as throwing a ball, or eating a pizza. But existing, or being, is also an action.

It is good to be, to exist. ( when you consider the alternative 😊 )
We exist because of something else.
God exists because he is existence. He is his own being. “I AM who am.”
And since being is good he is goodness.

We have potentiality and actuality. Joe can potentially become a doctor. If he graduates from medical school he becomes a doctor actually.
There is no potentiality in God. He is pure actuality. He already is all he can be, which is infinite. In Aquinas’s words, God is pure act.

In a limited sense, we are also our act. We think. We know. We will. This is all act, or action, and it is what makes our soul what it is. God “moves” our thoughts, in Aquinas’s words, but not in a deterministic way. We choose our thoughts, and God makes it possible for us to have them. .
 
Existing is an action. We usually think of action as throwing a ball, or eating a pizza. But existing, or being, is also an action.

It is good to be, to exist. ( when you consider the alternative 😊 )
We exist because of something else.
God exists because he is existence. He is his own being. “I AM who am.”
And since being is good he is goodness.

We have potentiality and actuality. Joe can potentially become a doctor. If he graduates from medical school he becomes a doctor actually.
There is no potentiality in God. He is pure actuality. He already is all he can be, which is infinite. In Aquinas’s words, God is pure act.

In a limited sense, we are also our act. We think. We know. We will. This is all act, or action, and it is what makes our soul what it is. God “moves” our thoughts, in Aquinas’s words, but not in a deterministic way. We choose our thoughts, and God makes it possible for us to have them. .
Thank you very much for sharing, empther! I really like your words, and they have helped me greatly in perspective!
What does Aquinas mean when he says god’s goodness is his being. Or his being is his goodness? I am thinking that “bad” is a human idea. Because good is being and we are being that is “good”…right?

Bill
As an extension to empther’s reply, please consider a personally interpreted definition of goodness: “spreading the means to being perfectly patient and kind and motivated to achieve unbreakable peace, limitless happiness, and unstoppable energy, as a society and individual.”

If a person knows how to be fully peaceful, perfectly happy, and fully energetic as a society and individual, and s/he freely chooses not to share the means, this is not good.

God is perfectly patient/peaceful, kind/happy, and motivated/energetic in His Existence. Had He not shared the means to become that, not only would His Existence not mattered, He would also not be good.

And to understand how God “moves” our thoughts without being deterministic, recognize that God gave us a being which desires peace, happiness, energy, and wisdom. It is these four desires which “move” our thoughts, every single instance of thought!

The greater challenge becomes desiring to freely choose to be kind and patient through the powers of motivation for God and the wisdom of the Holy Bible!

Thoughts?
 
Thank you very much for sharing, empther! I really like your words, and they have helped me greatly in perspective!

As an extension to empther’s reply, please consider a personally interpreted definition of goodness: “spreading the means to being perfectly patient and kind and motivated to achieve unbreakable peace, limitless happiness, and unstoppable energy, as a society and individual.”

If a person knows how to be fully peaceful, perfectly happy, and fully energetic as a society and individual, and s/he freely chooses not to share the means, this is not good.

God is perfectly patient/peaceful, kind/happy, and motivated/energetic in His Existence. Had He not shared the means to become that, not only would His Existence not mattered, He would also not be good.

And to understand how God “moves” our thoughts without being deterministic, recognize that God gave us a being which desires peace, happiness, energy, and wisdom. It is these four desires which “move” our thoughts, every single instance of thought!

The greater challenge becomes desiring to freely choose to be kind and patient through the powers of motivation for God and the wisdom of the Holy Bible!

Thoughts?
This idea I am about to say is as far as I know not taught by Aquinas. I don’t claim to fully understand it either but I believe it is taught in certain buddhist schools. I don’t know about catholism. In order to exist one must have also been non-existant. And both the existing and non-existant are in suffering. If anyone who knows can shed some light on it I certainly am listening. I am not saying that god has ever been non-existant in our understanding but who can understand god? I want to come close though.

Bill
 
This idea I am about to say is as far as I know not taught by Aquinas. I don’t claim to fully understand it either but I believe it is taught in certain buddhist schools. I don’t know about catholism. In order to exist one must have also been non-existant. And both the existing and non-existant are in suffering. If anyone who knows can shed some light on it I certainly am listening. I am not saying that god has ever been non-existant in our understanding but who can understand god? I want to come close though.

Bill
Thank you very much for your time, consideration, and sharing your perspective.
Although I know I am operating within Aquinas’ Theology, I am very willing to stop discussing the Mystery of God’s Eternal Existence, my intentions are only to share a concept which has helped me grow tremendously in Love with Jesus Christ. So, if at any moment you feel uncomfortable with discussing this concept, know that I am ready to declare it is a Mystery, and move on to the greater purpose of doing God’s Will.

With that said, please consider the progression of developing these conceptualizations: Reflecting on the Scripture surrounding and defining the Greatest Commandments, it can be interpreted that the Foundation of all wisdom is found there.
Then recognizing that our person is inseparable from the nature, instead of trying to initially limit the concept to definitions, I simply considered: in reality, what makes up a person of the world? I have a body that feels and can tell my mind what it feels; I have a mind that thinks and can tell my body what it thinks my body should do; I have a will that requires strength and proceeds perfectly from the combination of the body and the mind; I am able to interact with other persons even when they are not physically there by recalling perfectly what they said, did, or looked liked, therefore I must have a spirit of an image, knowledge and will that other people can interact with when I am not physically present; I have the desiring of peace, happiness, energy, and wisdom as an individual and for society; the qualities of patience, kindness, motivation, and knowledge towards myself and society; the achievement of peace, happiness, energy, and wisdom in myself and my relationships.
Then considering the numerous references to God’s Image: His hands stretching the heavens, the earth is His footstool, He has a throne to be seated, in the bosom of the Father.
Then there is the logic of Jesus being Fully God: If Jesus was begotten, not created, and He had a physical body while on earth, and He has a physical body after resurrection, then God must have a body.
Then throughout Mass and Prayer, continually hearing Jesus, who is Fully God, say “This is my Body.” And recognizing that this is the most celebrated, the most amazing prayer of Catholicism, I pieced together that Jesus’ body is the body of God. At that point,……Wow! What a feeling to know that Jesus Christ fully and selflessly gave His Omnipotent and All-powerful Being up to share the Awesomeness of True Love! What an incredible level of sorrow I experienced to know that the only way for me to learn how to Truly Love others, was to have Him unjustly crucified.
Then the Nicene Creed and Scripture just began to fall into place! Jesus is Begotten. Jesus is one in Being (The Son is Fully the Body, The Father is the Fully the Mind). Through the Body of God, all things are made. If you have seen Jesus, you have seen God because they have the exact same image. The Holy Spirit is the Will of God, therefore God became man by using His Will. The Will of God proceeds from God’s Being and is not One in Being. The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. Through the Unity of the Son and the Holy Spirit, ALL Glory and Honor is God’s. Interpreted as, unifying that the Holy Spirit and the Son are the same person, but revealed as distinct persons.
Then it dawned on me that a Holy Spirit is the most difficult challenge for and pinnacle of person. For not only will the body, mind, and will be known as perfectly patient/peaceful, kind/happy, motivated/energetic, but also the spirit, that which everyone interacts with the person being physically there will be known as being and spreading the means to being perfectly patient/peaceful, kind/happy, and motivated/energetic. This was Jesus’ Holy Spirit at the time of His Last Supper and Crucifixion. However, in order to reveal that, a distinct and separate person from Jesus, must become One in His Holy Spirit, so that All the world will proclaim Jesus Christ as the Father of the world to come.

Please note: I recognize the necessity of God not having a body in the beginning, and in order to justify alignment, John 1:2 - “The same was in the beginning with God.” Which possibly allows for a speculation of what happened during “time” before creation.

Thoughts?
 
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