God's Gender

[Jimmy_B]

Response to jp2fan from JimmyB (continued)

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Moses not only heard God’s voice in the form of the Holy Spirit, Moses saw God’s back. Moses refers to God as a male.

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Exodos33-29

1. As Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the two tablets of the commandments in his hands, he did not know that the skin of his face had become radiant while he conversed with the LORD.

 

[Jimmy_B]

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Response to jp2fan from JimmyB (continued)

jp2fan

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Jp2fan,

Here are my post:

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Re: God’s Gender

Genesis 2:7 / 2:18-24**
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**7 the LORD God formed man out of the clay of the ground and blew into his nostrils the breath of life, and so man became a living being. **

**18 The LORD God said: “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a suitable partner for him.” **

**19 So the LORD God formed out of the ground various wild animals and various birds of the air, and he brought them to the man to see what he would call them; whatever the man called each of them would be its name. **

**20 The man gave names to all the cattle, all the birds of the air, and all the wild animals; but none proved to be the suitable partner for the man. **

**21 So the LORD God cast a deep sleep on the man, and while he was asleep, he took out one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh. **

**22 The LORD God then built up into a woman the rib that he had taken from the man. When he brought her to the man, **

**23 the man said: “This one, at last, is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; This one shall be called ‘woman,’ for out of ‘her man’ this one has been taken.” **

**24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife, and the two of them become one body. **

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Dominus Vobiscum

Yours in Christ,
***Jimmy Brousseau ***

 

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Response to jp2fan from JimmyB (continued)

jp2fan

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Jp2fan,

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Re: God’s Gender

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**(Edited version of my first Post)

Well, let’s see,

The first part of the Holy Trinity, (The Father) God in Heaven, Jesus refers to as “My Father” (male).

The second part of the Holy Trinity, (The Son) Jesus, is a man** and “He” is in fact God (male).

The 3rd part of the Holy Trinity, the Holy Spirit, spoke to Moses and many prophets and when they describe their conversation with God, He (God) is refer to as “He” “Him” and Himself” (male), not "She” ”her” or “Herself”.

The first part of the Lord’s Prayer, when we were told how to pray is -"Our Father… (Not “Our Mother” - male)

I could be wrong, but I believe all of this point’s a male God.

In the name of the Father (male) and of the Son (male) and of the Holy Spirit.
Amen.

(typo’s drive me nut’s)

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[Jimmy_B]

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Response to jp2fan from JimmyB (continued)
CCC 370 in full context
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III. "MALE AND FEMALE HE CREATED THEM"

Equality and difference** willed by God**

369 Man and woman have been created, which is to say, *willed *by God: on the one hand, in perfect equality as human persons; on the other, in their respective beings as man and woman. “Being man” or “being woman” is a reality which is good and willed by God: man and woman possess an inalienable dignity which comes to them immediately from God their Creator.240 Man and woman are both with one and the same dignity “in the image of God”. In their "being-man" and “being-woman”, they reflect the Creator’s wisdom and goodness.

“being-woman”, they reflect the Creator’s wisdom and goodness.

[370](javascriptpenWindow(‘cr/370.htm’) In no way is God in man’s image. He is neither man nor woman. God is pure spirit in which there is no place for the difference between the sexes. But the respective “perfections” of man and woman reflect something of the infinite perfection of God: **those of a mother and those of a father and husband.241 **

"Each for the other" - "A unity in two"

[371](javascriptpenWindow(‘cr/371.htm’) God created man and woman together and willed each for the other. The Word of God gives us to understand this through various features of the sacred text. "It is not good that the man should be alone. I will make him a helper fit for him."242 None of the animals can be man’s partner.243 The woman God “fashions” from the man’s rib and brings to him elicits on the man’s part a cry of wonder, an exclamation of love and communion: "This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh."244 Man discovers woman as another “I”, sharing the same humanity.

[372](javascriptpenWindow(‘cr/372.htm’) Man and woman were made “for each other” - not that God left them half-made and incomplete: he created them to be a communion of persons, in which each can be “helpmate” to the other, for they are equal as persons (“bone of my bones. . .”) and complementary as masculine and feminine. In marriage God unites them in such a way that, by forming “one flesh”,245 they can transmit human life: "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth."246 By transmitting human life to their descendants, man and woman as spouses and parents cooperate in a unique way in the Creator’s work.247

IN BRIEF** **

380 “Father,. . . you formed man in your own likeness and set him over the whole world to serve you, his creator, and to rule over all creatures” (Roman Missal, EP IV, 118).

381 Man is predestined to reproduce the image of God’s Son made man, **the “image of the invisible God” *(Col *1:15), so that Christ shall be the first-born of a multitude of brothers and sisters (cf. *Eph *1:3-6; *Rom *8:29).

 

[jp2fan]

whoo, jimmyb, you sure do talk a lot. I was referring to your post that says that all these references point to a male God. If you read the rest of my post, you will see that I certainly do not agree with calling God a her. However, to say that God is male is wrong. Simple. Please stop throwing Scripture verses at me, I already call God a He, ok?

 

[Jimmy_B]

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jp2fan

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**How did you reach this conclusion? **

Your Quote-

“jimmyb- you are in error, and out of line with the teachings of the Church”
Based on this quote?-*** ***

My Quote-

*** “I** could be wrong****, but I believe all of this point’s to a male God.”*

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**At any rate, I don’t believe it is a bad thing to research the scriptures regardless of what motivates you at the time. You motivated me. Thank you for your response. May God B****less You! **

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**Let no one ever come to you without leaving better and happier.”
**Mother Teresa

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[atsheeran]

I cannot believe there are people here trying to argue that God has a gender.

From the Catechism:

239 By calling God “Father”, the language of faith indicates two main things: that God is the first origin of everything and transcendent authority; and that he is at the same time goodness and loving care for all his children. God’s parental tenderness can also be expressed by the image of motherhood,62 which emphasizes God’s immanence, the intimacy between Creator and creature. the language of faith thus draws on the human experience of parents, who are in a way the first representatives of God for man. But this experience also tells us that human parents are fallible and can disfigure the face of fatherhood and motherhood. We ought therefore to recall that God transcends the human distinction between the sexes. He is neither man nor woman: he is God. He also transcends human fatherhood and motherhood, although he is their origin and standard:63 no one is father as God is Father.

The most important part:

"We ought therefore to recall that God transcends the human distinction between the sexes. He is neither man nor woman: he is God."

Is there anyone who still wants to argue that God is male?

 

[Jimmy_B]

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God is everywhere and in everything, including all of us when he comes as the Holy Spirit. If God can appear as; “fire”, “like a dove”, in the form of man- “Jesus”, then God can most certainly appear as a “woman”. However it appears, at least Biblically, that God has chosen to appear as a “man”.

(Note - I’m not saying that God is a man, I’m just pondering a question)

Exodus 19:18-20 (fire) **
18. Mount Sinai was all wrapped in smoke, for the LORD came down upon it in fire.** The smoke rose from it as though from a furnace, and the whole mountain trembled violently.

Matthew 3:16 (dove)**
******16 After Jesus was baptized, he came up from the water and behold, the heavens were opened (for him), and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove (and) coming upon him.

**John 1:1 (Jesus / Man) ****
******1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2. He was in the beginning with God.
3. All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be
4. through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race;
5. the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

I guess the answer is, God can appear in any form he chooses, including as a “women”.