God's Mercy and Stillborn Babies

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Hey, I personally would be fine with parents’ desire, or even the desire of the Church as a whole (which covers the babies whose parents are indifferent or having abortions), covering those babies. It’s the ITC at the Vatican who said there’s a theological problem with that.

Probably the best solution is just put those babies into God’s loving hands and trust in His merciful love.
 
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BT3241 said:
So let me get this right - God is sending people to hell who never even had a chance to live because of the Church doctrine on baptism. You realize your condemning every aborted baby to hell.
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No, that’s not correct.
 
We trust the mercy of God.

God does not give us this revelation.
 
Anesti33 said:
Oh, so now we have “teaching” and “official teaching”? How do moral theologians treat “unofficial” teachings? Is an “official” teaching always infallible? de fide? Must they be held? Must they be believed with divine and Catholic faith? What about “unofficial” teachings?

It’s weird, I never read of “official” teachings in the Catechism. Where can I find a definition of “official” and “unofficial”?
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The fact is the Catholic Church has not made an official pronouncement on the matter, and in expressing hope that the unbaptized innocent may be welcome to the beatific vision, the Church has not ruled out that possibility. There are also the individual theological opinions of the Fathers throughout history which fall under the umbrella of what isn’t in contradiction to the things the Church has declared.

This isn’t new.
 
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We do know from Scripture that God Himself can and has waived the baptism requirement.

For instance, the Good Theif was never baptized, but we know he’s in Heaven.

Bottom line—get your child baptized.

If you can’t make this happen through no fault of theirs, God still loves them even more than you do.
 
Scripture only addresses the issue tangentially, although these references offer much hope. Psalm 139 indicates that God knew us before we were born, and took delight in us even then. Jeremiah 1 also indicates that God knew us and consecrated us for his purpose before we were born. Lastly Ephesians 1 should give us much hope that God is in control of his creation, and that includes stillborn babies.

So on that note, I think we just rest on God’s mercy. That, my friends, is a pretty great place to be.

That being said, I have memories before I was born that have always given me great faith in God’s love and mercy even before our creation.
 
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We do know from Scripture that God Himself can and has waived the baptism requirement.

For instance, the Good Theif was never baptized, but we know he’s in Heaven.
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Well, to be fair, that was prior to Jesus’ institution of baptism – He only gave that commandment to the apostles after His resurrection.
 
Is that correct?

Because He did say to Nicodemus about being born again in water and the Spirit.

Who baptized the Apotles and the Blessed Mother?

Shoot—now I wanna know 🙂
 
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Is that correct?
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The Good Thief: Luke 23:39-43 (prior to Christ’s death on the cross)

The Great Commission: Matthew 28:16-20 (the conclusion of Matthew’s Gospel, after the resurrection and prior to the ascension)
0Scarlett_nidiyilii said:
Because He did say to Nicodemus about being born again in water and the Spirit.
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Sure, but He didn’t institute baptism at that moment.
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Who baptized the Apotles and the Blessed Mother?
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That’s not recorded in Scripture.
 
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