Going back to tradional kneeling to receive Holy Communion

[ethelzguy]

Certainly not to you. If you go back a few posts, I think you’ll figure it out for yourself.

If you are referring to me, I posted nothing irreverent toward the Holy Father. I am referring to those who constantly observe his every move, as if every move is a statement of Church authority.

When he came to the US, and said Mass in the vernacular, facing the people, and used contemporary music, the rogue traditionalist crowd screeched “Lions and tigers and bears, oh my”, how could he do this to US"?

Yet, when he gives someone Communion on the tongue at a kneeler, they all proclaim “boo-yah, you liberals, he’s taking us back to where we belong”.

The Holy Father is just that, our Holy Father, the successor of Peter. He is not a puppeteer.

 

[Walking_Home]

If you are referring to me, I posted nothing irreverent toward the Holy Father. I am referring to those who constantly observe his every move, as if every move is a statement of Church authority.

When he came to the US, and said Mass in the vernacular, facing the people, and used contemporary music, the rogue traditionalist crowd screeched “Lions and tigers and bears, oh my”, how could he do this to US"?

Yet, when he gives someone Communion on the tongue at a kneeler, they all proclaim “boo-yah, you liberals, he’s taking us back to where we belong”.

The Holy Father is just that, our Holy Father, the successor of Peter. He is not a puppeteer.

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So it seems your saying —Our Holy Father, the successor of St. Peter ------his actions count for nothing. When his actions upset the “Spirit of Vat II” — that is.

 

[ethelzguy]

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So it seems your saying —Our Holy Father, the successor of St. Peter ------his actions count for nothing. When his actions upset the “Spirit of Vat II” — that is.

Whatever.

What I am saying is, that his every action and word is not Church doctrine, dogma, or discipline, as some wish to perceive it when it suits their personal agendas.

 

[Walking_Home]

Whatever.

What I am saying is, that his every action and word is not Church doctrine, dogma, or discipline, as some wish to perceive it when it suits their personal agendas.

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So again – you are saying our Pope’s actions count for nothing --when they upset the “Spirit of Vat II”.

 

[ethelzguy]

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So again – you are saying our Pope’s actions count for nothing --when they upset the “Spirit of Vat II”.

So again, Whatever.

If the Pope’s actions suit you, great, if they don’t…rant and rave.

Your implication that I minimize the Pope’s actions is unfounded. My contention is that some tend to read too much into every little thing he does.

Again, his every personal action, word, or deed, while however worthy, does not constitute a statement on the three Church "D"s.

:banghead:

 

[Walking_Home]

So again, Whatever.

If the Pope’s actions suit you, great, if they don’t…rant and rave.

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I believe it is you who rants and raves —comparing people to “panting dogs”.

I wonder — how many people who attended this Mass --would qualify for your title of “panting dogs”. Perhaps the ones who knelt before our Lord and God and received Him on the tongue from our Pope --whose actions count for nothing.

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[JonW]

Folks, grow up.

Look again at Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians, Chapter 3.

God Bless

Jon Winterburn

 

[BSHoop96]

Let

ethelzguy is surely threatened by this.
Form the article posted by ethelzguy which he did not read.

"Kneeling and receiving Communion on the tongue highlights “the truth of the real presence (of Christ) in the Eucharist, helps the devotion of the faithful and introduces the sense of mystery more easily,” he said in a June 26 interview with the Vatican newspaper, L’Osservatore Romano.

Pastorally speaking, he said “it is urgent to highlight and recover” these aspects of the sacredness and mystery of the Eucharist in modern times.

He said “it is necessary not to forget that the distribution of Communion in the hand, from a juridical standpoint, remains up to now an indult,” which is an exemption from a general requirement that is granted by the Vatican to the bishops’ conferences which have requested it. He said the pope’s adoption of the traditional practice of distributing Communion "aims to highlight the force of the valid norm for the whole church."

The “valid norm” is to receive kneeling and on the tongue.
To receive standing and in the hand is an indult

Let’s be fair…you left this paragraph out…apparently it conflicted with your point.

However, the pope’s preference for the traditional practice is not meant to “take anything away from the other” permissible form of standing or receiving the Eucharist in the hand, he said.

Since the Pope prefers the other, but at least for now, standing and receiving in the hand is okay, I don’t think anyone should be berating those who choose that form. I don’t think it’s fair to say Ethelzguy is threatened. I think he is just pointing out that both are valid and he does have a point about the Pope doing or saying something that people seem to take the ball and run with in a way that He may not have intended at this time. I don’t think he meant for you to start beating people over the head if they don’t make the change.

 

[Claire_from_DE]

“However, the pope’s preference for the traditional practice is not meant to “take anything away from the other” permissible form of standing or receiving the Eucharist in the hand, he said…”

Perhaps the Holy Father is simply reiterating that receiving on the tongue is not to be considered the extraordinary form. That there is an ordinary form does not imply that the extraordinary form is inferior, does it?

Certainly wouldn’t want to imply that on this forum

 

[ethelzguy]

Certainly wouldn’t want to imply that on this forum

Picking and choosing what Church teachings to follow, = Cafeteria Catholicism.

The sword swings both ways

 

[mozier]

My knees are terrible and it is painful to kneel and get up.

But with that said, I would gladly kneel in order to receive my Lord in communion, whether from the pope or even an Extreordinary Eucharistic Minister!