Going through changes spirtually. Advice?

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Okay, so I am entirely new this site. Not only that, but new to catholicism. Hello all! 🙂 So here goes. I have been dating a young man for a year now. He was catholic when we met and his father is the Deacon of the Church we both attend now. I was raised Baptist. Once my mother found out I was dating someone Catholic, she didn’t like him anymore. When she was younger, my grandmother told her she was never allowed to see a guy she liked because he was Catholic and so my mother hurt him pretty bad. Well as that goes, my mother gave me a choice between her and him. However, even though him and I were only 6 months into dating, we were falling hard for each other. I did not want to choose. I loved them both. Why couldn’t she accept him, I wondered. Her reason was he was a nice guy but not right for me. There were times she would smile and pretend she liked him even though I really knew how she felt. She said she wanted to bring him into the house to talk to him. Her first words in the conversation were, “Well I just wanted to clear up a few things. You know how we feel about you being Catholic and not being saved. Could you clear that up for us?” He was caught off guard but we both knew in our hearts it would come to this. He told her he did not come to argue about philosophy and religion but explained the concept of being saved to her and how you admit to one baptism for your sins when you are born. She took a strong disliking to that and after that conversation, things changed. I had a strict curfew or things I had to do instead of going out that night like cleaning the house. Pretty soon, things got out of hand. She was bringing him up in every conversation relating everything to religion. We couldn’t go one day without arguing because she could relate even drinking water to our differences in religion. I admit to knowing what I was getting into. I was curious of his faith from the beginning which was something I lacked. My mother and step father would attend church but only for a few weeks before they didn’t like it anymore. I was never truly getting any message out of it. My mother started threatening things like kicking me out because we did not end things and I was going to ruin my life if I had to convert. See that? She goes on about me “having” to convert. What she fails to miss is that I don’t see it that way. I now want to convert. Everything came to a head when she stood before me screaming that I was the first child she had had that didn’t have her same beliefs and she couldn’t deal with it so I politely told her that I would go live with my father while I figured things out. She was angry and kicked me out permanently. In the end it wasn’t a matter of choosing between her and him. I had always been curious about Catholicism. My best friend growing up was Catholic but my mother would always tell me things that I naively believed. I never wanted it this way. I never thought I’d end up losing my mother not to mention she doesn’t let me see my little 10 year old sister anymore. I wear the crucifix on my necklace and my sister quietly asked me why I was wearing it because mommy told her only Priests wear them. My boyfriend did not initiate me into a cult like she thinks. He exposed me to a new way of life. I had struggled with faith all this year believing that if I convert, I renounce my faith of Baptist and go to Hell. She told me he would be there too. I am now seeing things so much differently and my father is accepting. I’ve never been through so many trials in my life and I’m only 19. When I attend Mass, I feel home. Like it is where I should be. His family is very accepting of me and this journey is very spiritual and emotional. I have not entered the RCIA program yet but am about to schedule my appointment for the inquiry stage. I am nervous. I guess I am just asking about any advice, opinions or statements anyone would like to make. Half of me is trying to still get out of the mindset that I’m going to Hell and I am so concerned about my soul. None of my family is Catholic (if they attend church at all) but my grandfather was Lutheran. Going to Church I have finally found peace within myself after this year. I am doing this for me and my walk with God. I am trying to see if there is anyone else out there going through something like this or if someone could help. Thanks so much everyone! Best of wishes! :gopray:
 
Do you feel like you have any particular spiritual gifts? Do you feel like you have any alarming spiritual faults? What do you think the biggest issue is right now? You’ve brought up many points, but it’s usually easier to address one at a time.

I’ve found that those two questions can be paramount in determining the stepping stones for one’s spiritual journey.

Joshua C.
 
As far as spiritual gifts, somehow people always approach me no matter where I am. I don’t know why but I embrace it. They always tell me about a struggle of deep part of their life and I’m not one to walk away. I listen. The biggest issue for me right now is the hardship of having to either sacrifice my happiness and remain with her in her church or to lose her and find my own way. There is no win win scenario unfortunately. I think I’ve already lost her.
 
Any conversion must be Christ centered, not religion centered.

It sounds like you like the Catholic Religion, and of course connect with your boyfriend through it. It also seems to be giving you an identity, which you may be attaching to.

This is not faith, but the attraction toward a particular religion, for reasons other than faith.

Christ must be the reason you want to convert, period. If Christ is not at the center of your desire for conversion, the unique attractiveness of the religion will eventually begin to turn against you, especially if for some reason, you and your current boyfriend don’t stay together.

Anyway, I’m not telling you not to become Catholic, but to discern the proper reason for converting and that is, to grow closer to God through Jesus Christ.

The issue with your mother is a different story. She’s a anti-Catholic bigot and that something she’ll have to work out, if she even sees the flaw in her way of thinking. You will not change her, however, so don’t even try at this point. Respect her as your mother and allow her to be who she is.

Become the Christian that Christ desires you to be and your light with speak for itself.

In all, pray, pray, pray.

In Christ
Jim
 
I’m going to somewhat disagree with Jim. I think you do have to be Christ centered, but Christ is found in the Church.

A Monsignor in confession once told me:

A man looking to climb on top of a roof may need a ladder to get there, the ladder is just a tool to get there. Sometimes it is more important that we made it to God than how we went about doing it.
 
Thank you so much! And please don’t misunderstand, my desire is to grow through Christ, I just really feel like I am being called to the Catholic faith. Like I was lost figuratively on the streets and now am being called home. Wise words on my mother. I still love her. I just want peace back in my life. I was just trying to get the whole situation written out but I have so many thoughts on the catholic faith, I always felt a connection to it but was never allowed to explore it for myself. But your words have helped. I am continuously praying. Thanks again!🙂
 
Hello KayBee,

Have you spoken with a priest yet? If not, I would suggest making an appointment with one (that way you are not speaking with your boyfriend’s father). And if it makes you feel better, it can be a priest from another parish.

RCIA class will allow you to learn more about Catholic beliefs. If after RCIA, you decide that being Catholic is not for you, no one will force you to receive communion or receive Confirmation.

In addition to making sure a conversion is Christ centered, I would suggest learning the reasons behind Catholic teaching, which are firmly rooted in the Bible. Your RCIA teacher or boy friend’s Deacon father should be able to help you.

As for your mother; I used to have fights with my Father when he left the Catholic Church for a Baptist church. All you can do is let you mother know that you love her and that you will pray for her. Unfortunately, when Catholics are persecuted in this county today by other “so called” Christians, it is often by Baptists & other so called “fundamentalist Christians.” My father at one time actually insinuated that he was now finally a “Christian” and that Catholics were not. The idea of “Sola Scriptura” does not take root, unless the Catholic Church is wrong, which is why anti-Catholic teaching takes place (even if subtle).

But as someone else has said before, please make sure you are doing it for the right reasons and if you are, welcome home.

God Bless!

*(NOTE: I’m **not **saying that all Baptists or fundamentalists persecute Catholics, **nor **am I saying that people from other groups do not persecute Catholics either. Also, I am **not **saying that Baptist and/or fundamentialist conferences specifically condone persecutation of Catholics. Finally, I’m **not *implying that all Catholics are innocent of persecutation against non-Catholics either.)
 
Thank you so much! And please don’t misunderstand, my desire is to grow through Christ, I just really feel like I am being called to the Catholic faith. Like I was lost figuratively on the streets and now am being called home. Wise words on my mother. I still love her. I just want peace back in my life. I was just trying to get the whole situation written out but I have so many thoughts on the catholic faith, I always felt a connection to it but was never allowed to explore it for myself. But your words have helped. I am continuously praying. Thanks again!🙂
Then, welcome home and I will pray for you.
 
You are an adult now and have to make your own life decisions. It is very unfortunate that your mother has such opinions but we cannot choose or control our relatives, can we? The Catholic Church is the Church created by Christ at Pentecost. There should be no fear about joining Christ’s Church, there should rather be fear about not joining.

Try to stay in touch with your mother. Tell her that you love her and are praying for her daily. Don’t ever argue with her. Is there perhaps a Baptist pastor whom she respects who might be able to talk to her on your behalf?
 
Welcome to Christ’s Church, the one that actually goes back 2000 years to our first Pope Peter, one of the 12, who was personally given his authority by Jesus. A sinful man, as we all are, but a man of great faith. The Church is made up of sinners and always has been, but here it is, 2000 years later, teaching true doctrine.

Congratulations on your decision! I would join the RCIA program as soon as possible.

youtube.com/watch?v=pnKbPj7EhCg
 
joshvanrad
I’m going to somewhat disagree with Jim. I think you do have to be Christ centered, but Christ is found in the Church.
If you are being drawn to Christ, you will find Him where He is at, for it is He who is calling you, whether in the Church, or within your very being.
A Monsignor in confession once told me:
A man looking to climb on top of a roof may need a ladder to get there, the ladder is just a tool to get there. Sometimes it is more important that we made it to God than how we went about doing it.
It’s the desire that is important. It isn’t the ladder which is important, but the desire to be on the top of the roof. If you focus on the ladder alone, you many never know what your intention was in the first place and not use the tool to serve your intention.

So it is when entering the Church.

Is Christ your desire, or is it to be part of something which you find attractive and how being part of it, draws attention from others ?

Proper intent on why a person enters the Church is important, and if it’s not Jesus Christ, then it’s just taking part in religion for it’s own sake.

Not everyone who joins the Church grows closer to Christ, because He wasn’t their reason for joining in the first place.

Jim
 
As a former Baptist, I can somewhat relate about what your going through, if I make some suggestions, read some information on the common arguments protestants make against Catholics, that helped me a lot, and made me more knowledgeable about the Faith. Also, pray the Holy Rosary, this prayer will be your weapon and armor against hell, satan fears a soul that prays to Our Lady and prays her Rosary. Heres a link that shows how to rosary-center.org/howto.htm

God bless you! I will pray a Rosary for you!
 
joshvanrad

If you are being drawn to Christ, you will find Him where He is at, for it is He who is calling you, whether in the Church, or within your very being.

It’s the desire that is important. It isn’t the ladder which is important, but the desire to be on the top of the roof. If you focus on the ladder alone, you many never know what your intention was in the first place and not use the tool to serve your intention.

So it is when entering the Church.

Is Christ your desire, or is it to be part of something which you find attractive and how being part of it, draws attention from others ?

Proper intent on why a person enters the Church is important, and if it’s not Jesus Christ, then it’s just taking part in religion for it’s own sake.

Not everyone who joins the Church grows closer to Christ, because He wasn’t their reason for joining in the first place.

Jim
I am not here to argue semantics.

The church is a good place to start. It certain isn’t going to lead a person away from God.
 
joshvanrad

If you are being drawn to Christ, you will find Him where He is at, for it is He who is calling you, whether in the Church, or within your very being.

It’s the desire that is important. It isn’t the ladder which is important, but the desire to be on the top of the roof. If you focus on the ladder alone, you many never know what your intention was in the first place and not use the tool to serve your intention.

So it is when entering the Church.

Is Christ your desire, or is it to be part of something which you find attractive and how being part of it, draws attention from others ?

Proper intent on why a person enters the Church is important, and if it’s not Jesus Christ, then it’s just taking part in religion for it’s own sake.

Not everyone who joins the Church grows closer to Christ, because He wasn’t their reason for joining in the first place.

Jim
You are misled if you believe I am converting to draw attention from others. That is the last thing I want to do. I would do this in quiet even still. This is to get closer to God. I am being called is what I’m feeling. Please understand that I come here only to ask questions from people already of the faith. If I only converted for the church, then what does my attendance matter when the rest of the week I do not feel Christ if that is what youre implying. It feels like you say I am not good enough to convert to Catholicism. However, everyone has their opinion. And we are not here to argue.
 
KayBee,
There are many misconceptions about Catholicism among our Protestant brothers and sisters. It seems that your mother is sticking to her preconceive notion and refuses to have an open mind. In this case, you can only love her and pray for her.

Catholic Church was established by Jesus himself. It is a Christ centered faith. All our Sacraments are rooted in the Scriptures. There are rich treasures in Catholicism. How would people in such an authentic faith be destined to hell?

There are more than 32,000 denominations in the Protestant world. Each of them was established by some man who disagreed with his previous “church”. Which church is the true church? The one established by Jesus himself and passed down from the Apostles, or any of the innovative 32,000 different denominations?

If your mother can force you to make the choice between her and Catholicism, she can easily force you to make a choice for any other reason. For example, if you date a person of a different nationality or a different race, a person not having the appearance she likes, a person from a different social economic background, etc. she can all force you to choose between her and him. The list can go on…….

Since you are attracted by Catholicism, I encourage you to sincerely seek after the truth. It may seem that you have to make a choice for “either or”, but it may not be like that in the end. Pray for your mother and trust in God. May God bless you and lead you.
 
You are misled if you believe I am converting to draw attention from others. That is the last thing I want to do. I would do this in quiet even still. This is to get closer to God. I am being called is what I’m feeling. Please understand that I come here only to ask questions from people already of the faith. If I only converted for the church, then what does my attendance matter when the rest of the week I do not feel Christ if that is what youre implying. It feels like you say I am not good enough to convert to Catholicism. However, everyone has their opinion. And we are not here to argue.
Kaybee,
forgive me if I misread your original post.

However, when I read it, I never saw Jesus mentioned, nor your desire to grow closer to Him through the Catholic Church.

Instead, you wrote about your strained relationship with your mother over the fact that your boyfriend is Catholic and how converting to Catholicism would exacerbate that relationship.

My advice was merely to have you discern your true desire and to be sure that you have the right intention for converting to Catholicism and that should be your relationship with Jesus Christ.

I’m not here to argue or discourage you.

However, in my 62 years, I’ve seen many young people convert for the wrong reasons, only to end up leaving the Church after a time, and after they’ve made bad blood with loved ones over it.

Prayer is the source for the questions you are asking and trusting in Jesus Christ will bring the answers.

You’ll be in my prayers.

Jim
 
I would offer this, that your mother needs gentleness and love even tho she misunderstands you and the catholic church. Just say something good else say nothing at all. Always be loving and kind even tho it will be hard to hold on to patience. Arrows can be removed, but harsh words never seem to heal. Love can overcome.

One thing in your favor is that someday you will have a beautiful baby, and grandmother’s always want to see their cute grandchildren. It is rare if they don’t.

I can understand why you want to be catholic because it too is so beautiful. In time you will know this too, and it will enrich your life. Like you said, “When I attend Mass, I feel home.”

May God bless and keep you. May God’s face shine on you. May God be kind to you and give you peace.
 
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