Going to Mass

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Loud and clear.
Note quite. Michelle Arnold did not answer the question being discussed. She said, and I quote
Catholics*** ordinarily*** should not receive Communion at an Eastern Orthodox divine liturgy.
(Emphasis on ordinarily is mine) The situation the OP is in is NOT ordinary: indeed it is an* extraordinary* circumstance, and thus would be allowed.
 
If there is no Catholic Church, you have no obligation.

Listen to Deacon Ed. He agrees with me.

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Even the Deacon said if you cannot find any other Mass, then to go to an Orthodox Divine Liturgy is a good thing. Are you so tied up with “is it an obligation” that you would not go, even if it were the only Eucharist around? And logic dictates that, if there is no Catholic Liturgy around, then going to a valid Liturgy is fulfilling the Sunday Obligation, if you wish to obey the spirit of the law and not just the letter. Or would you just not go to Mass at all?
 
Even the Deacon said if you cannot find any other Mass, then to go to an Orthodox Divine Liturgy is a good thing. Are you so tied up with “is it an obligation” that you would not go, even if it were the only Eucharist around? And logic dictates that, if there is no Catholic Liturgy around, then going to a valid Liturgy is fulfilling the Sunday Obligation, if you wish to obey the spirit of the law and not just the letter. Or would you just not go to Mass at all?
I’m going to agree with you on that. While technically there is no obligation to attend such a liturgy, you don’t want to make it a habit of putting yourself in such a position over and over again, because spiritually you will be hurt. As I read him, Deacon Ed suggested you can go to an Orthodox liturgy to gain spiritual advantage. (If I’m wrong, I apologize.)

In any case, it seems the obligation is a moot point if there would be reasonable hardship in finding a Catholic Mass. Hope that makes sense.
 
I’m going to agree with you on that. While technically there is no obligation to attend such a liturgy, you don’t want to make it a habit of putting yourself in such a position over and over again, because spiritually you will be hurt. As I read him, Deacon Ed suggested you can go to an Orthodox liturgy to gain spiritual advantage. (If I’m wrong, I apologize.)

In any case, it seems the obligation is a moot point if there would be reasonable hardship in finding a Catholic Mass. Hope that makes sense.
Agreed. the next point though, is to determine what constitutes a “reasonable hardship”? I have heard that if you must drive over 30 miles qualifies, but I know people who drive 60 miles or better to come to my Church. Maybe it is not even a number as such? A single person way not consider a 45 minute drive a hardship while a couple with two toddlers and an infant may find it absolute torture!
 
If you just don’t go to Mass after awhile do you fall out of grace? I can usually only make it Mons and/or Fridays and sometimes that’s inconvenient and I don’t go. Is that falling into sin. In a separate question do these live cams in parishes and places showing the host in a monstrance valid adoration in front of a computer?
You need to forget about whether you are sinning or not by missing Mass.

The question is, do you want to go to mass? do you hunger/thirst for it?

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
If you just don’t go to Mass after awhile do you fall out of grace? I can usually only make it Mons and/or Fridays and sometimes that’s inconvenient and I don’t go. Is that falling into sin. In a separate question do these live cams in parishes and places showing the host in a monstrance valid adoration in front of a computer?
josh987654321;11086238:
You need to forget about whether you are sinning or not by missing Mass.

The question is, do you want to go to mass? do you hunger/thirst for it?
If you hunger/thrist for the Mass, even if you do miss it, your not sinning, if you don’t hunger/thrist for the Mass, even if you do go, you will simply be paying lip service, “These people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.” (Isaiah 29:13)

The common response as to why people attend mass is “Because it’s commanded of us” or “Because it’s a sin to miss mass for no valid reason.” 😦

When people miss mass for no valid reason (e.g. they didn’t feel like going), the church teaches us that this is a sin. However Christ does not want people to attend mass out of fear, guilt or by feeling forced to go. Christ wants us to attend mass because we want to, because we love him and want to recieve that enourmous gift where he comes down and feeds us with his body, blood, soul and divinity. We should attend becuase we want to, we hunger/thrist for that encounter of real love with him through the Holy Eucharist.

Christ doesn’t want mass to be some routine that lacks all enthusiasm, he wants it to be another unique and loving encounter with him.

To miss mass for no valid reason is a sin because we have failed to see or placed on such low piority recieveing that enourmous gift of the Holy Eucharist, where Christ comes down and feeds us with his body, blood, soul and divinity, where we experience that encounter of real love with Christ through the Holy Eucharist.

When people say to someone “The Church commands us to go to Mass” or just “Missing mass is a sin.” I believe they have missed the point. They should go because they want to go.

Mark121359 said it best on another thread -
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Mark121359:
You have to have that passion for the Faith burning with fire inside you. To me, if you don’t have a deep, deep passion for Christ in your heart beforehand, then even if you do attend Mass, you will likely be just paying lip service and not much more. And this I speak from experience!..“These people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.” Isaiah 29:13
If you do not experience that hunger/thirst for the Mass, if you wish to light that passion, that fire inside you, than please read these two very short books. (They have given me an overwhelming desire for Mass, for his Eucharistic presense).

In Adoration - loveandmercy.org/Eng-IA-Reg.pdf
The Holy Mass - loveandmercy.org/Eng-HM-Reg.pdf

For more please go here - youshallbelieve.com/

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
You need to forget about whether you are sinning or not by missing Mass.

The question is, do you want to go to mass? do you hunger/thirst for it?

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
Amen, indeed, I would put forth that it goes beyond,“Do you want to go to Mass?”!
Do you want to become one with Him: to eat His most precious Flesh: to drink His life giving Blood?"!
I suggest that, if this is so, then though one may most sincerely desire to do so within the realm of the Holy Catholic Church; if it be not possible, then anywhere where He is truly present in a valid Sacrament is where one should desire to be!
 
Missing Mass on Sunday is gravely immoral and thus would ordinarily be mortally sinful. If you can’t possibly make it to Mass b/c you are sick, just gave birth, were sent on an unavoidable work trip to a place with no Catholic parishes nearby, etc. then you wouldn’t be giving full consent and it therefore wouldn’t be mortally sinful.

Missing weekday Mass is not sinful as you are under no obligation attend Mass except for on Sundays and Holy Days of Obligation.

Going to Mass on Monday instead of Sunday doesn’t make up for missing your Sunday obligation.

To fully answer your question, we’d have to know why you can’t make it on Sunday (or Sat evening). Perhaps that is something you could speak to your priest about at your next confession.

God bless.
Wrong. Bad advice.

Obviously there are a number of factors if missing Mass on a holy day of obligation is indeed sinful for a given person and a given situation.

To suggest however that missing Mass on Sunday is “gravely immoral” is pure bunkum.
 
Amen, indeed, I would put forth that it goes beyond,“Do you want to go to Mass?”!
Do you want to become one with Him: to eat His most precious Flesh: to drink His life giving Blood?"!
I suggest that, if this is so, then though one may most sincerely desire to do so within the realm of the Holy Catholic Church; if it be not possible, then anywhere where He is truly present in a valid Sacrament is where one should desire to be!
You are aware that is not the principle reason we attend Mass?
 
You are aware that is not the principle reason we attend Mass?
The principle reason I attend the Divine Liturgy is to be one with my Lord. Accomplishing this, accomplishes all the other reasons for being there, such as
thanksgiving and worship.
 
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