Good Analysis of Differences between Islamic and Catholic Prayer

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pro, it is very easy for someone who has never been a slave and is enamored of Islam to think it is fine. Notice I say “is”, because slavery still exists in Islamic countries. I am sure the young Sudanese boy who was nailed up would disagree with you on the benefits of slavery. The brutality of slavery under Islam is ongoing. Dhimmi are little better then slaves. I will never be either.
 
cestusdei said:
pro, it is very easy for someone who has never been a slave and is enamored of Islam to think it is fine. Notice I say “is”, because slavery still exists in Islamic countries. I am sure the young Sudanese boy who was nailed up would disagree with you on the benefits of slavery. The brutality of slavery under Islam is ongoing. Dhimmi are little better then slaves. I will never be either.
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Are you saying that you have more freedom in your dealings with God than a slave has with his master?

Strange…I always thought that God’s will was sovereign.
 
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He does. Poke around his website some, you might like it.

The point of being a slave was that Muhammad used this phrase to show how humble he was before God. All Muslims call him “the slave of Allah”, to make it clear that the religion is not about a personality cult of Muhammad. Rather, human beings are seen as humble servants who do no more than obey God’s will.
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You claim that Muhammad was “humble”?? Does a humble man have a Jewish poet killed because he wrote satyrical poems about him??:rolleyes:

Excuse me, but Muslims are hardly humble, they may obey orders mindlessly like robots, but they’re taught that they’re superior to everyone else! They’re the “best of people” and no one can match them for their piety! They see non-Muslims as “dirty” and are filled with arrogance and pride! Islam feeds their egos to monumental degrees!

There is no difference between them and the Nazi Aryan race and when people feel so much superiority, they start seeing others as expendable and not fit to live. Can you not see the similarities between the two?

Do humble people think they know more about God than He does about himself?:rolleyes:
I think your negative view of slavery isn’t shared by Muslims because they are mostly not westerners, and the eastern tradition in slavery was far less brutal than the western one.
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You’re a prime example of what brainwashing does to people! You actually believe all the tripe Muslims feed you!
 
pro, The Islamic belief of God as sovereign was critiqued by Benedict. With them it overshadows everything, which is the mark of error and heresy. As God’s son I do have perfect freedom. That is a crucial distinction from Islam.
 
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pro, The Islamic belief of God as sovereign was critiqued by Benedict. With them it overshadows everything, which is the mark of error and heresy. As God’s son I do have perfect freedom. That is a crucial distinction from Islam.
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Perfect freedom? So can you undo God’s will for your life?
 
Valke2 said:
That GOd has more power over us than anything and at the same time we are freer under God than a slave is under his human master. Paradox.
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It’s certainly strange, but it may just be exactly the plan 🙂
 
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It may be. I don’t view paradox as a flaw in theology.
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I don’t think it necessarily is either. But it certainly can be one, depending on the theology.

Could you point me to any Jewish critiques of Christian theology that are in english? I’d certainly be interested to read what the Jewish greats have to say about Christian teaching.
 
pro_universal said:
I don’t think it necessarily is either. But it certainly can be one, depending on the theology.

Could you point me to any Jewish critiques of Christian theology that are in english? I’d certainly be interested to read what the Jewish greats have to say about Christian teaching.
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Probably. But if you give me a specific topic, it would be easier. I haven’t read much on that myself.
 
I have read an interesting book called “Why the Jews Rejected Jesus” by Klinghoffer (think that’s his name). I don’t know if it is so much a critique on Christian theology as it is an explanation of why Jews rejected Jesus (and Paul), based on our theology.
 
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