Good aspects of OF

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So I am assuming most on this forum absolutely love the EF of the Mass. Are there any aspects of the OF that people like? Is anybody else excited for the new translation of the mass?
 
There’s already an “are you excited for the new translation?” thread in the Liturgy & Sacraments Forum.

Anyways… to be honest, the OF doesn’t have anything particular to it that I love that I can’t also find in the EF.
 
codefro said:
So I am assuming most on this forum absolutely love the EF of the Mass. Are there any aspects of the OF that people like? Is anybody else excited for the new translation of the mass?
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Yes, I am excited.

As for what I like about the OF, I really like the cycle of readings. Having three readings each Sunday and having three yearly cycles, in my opinion, was a good change. (I think it could have been made more organically but that’s the topic for another thread)
 
YoungTradCath said:
There’s already an “are you excited for the new translation?” thread in the Liturgy & Sacraments Forum.

Anyways… to be honest, the OF doesn’t have anything particular to it that I love that I can’t also find in the EF.
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And the OF I attend doesn’t have anything in particular that I’m missing that requires me to drive 100 km to seek out an EF Mass 🙂 .It’s the OF as Vatican II intended: propers and ordinary in Gregorian chant sung a cappella, pipe organ as only instrument, chanted readings, prayers and EP in French plainchant, incense, bells, reverent silent pauses where relevant, etc.

Whatever nourishes your faith wherever you are. If I had to drive 100 km to find such an OF Mass but there was an EF nearby I’d go to the EF. But I’d also fight to have a better OF locally.
 
With the understanding that we are not here discussing the efficacy of the sacrament, the best thing about the OF is that other Catholics like it.

Other than that, nothing.

But the new translations will make me like nothing about it less, if that makes any sense at all.🤷
 
OraLabora said:
And the OF I attend doesn’t have anything in particular that I’m missing that requires me to drive 100 km to seek out an EF Mass 🙂 .It’s the OF as Vatican II intended: propers and ordinary in Gregorian chant sung a cappella, pipe organ as only instrument, chanted readings, prayers and EP in French plainchant, incense, bells, reverent silent pauses where relevant, etc.

Whatever nourishes your faith wherever you are. If I had to drive 100 km to find such an OF Mass but there was an EF nearby I’d go to the EF. But I’d also fight to have a better OF locally.
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Wow, your OF sounds very rich and awesome. I wish my OF was more liturgically rich. I am currently in RCIA at that church, but there is a Latin Mass at another parish at noon on Sundays that I have wanted to attend from time to time, but it is hard with schedules.

Whoever said ‘organic’: I believe that word should never be used about Catholic mass, lol. 🙂
 
codefro said:
Whoever said ‘organic’: I believe that word should never be used about Catholic mass, lol. 🙂
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That was me. One of the criticisms of the OF Mass is that the changes were abrupt, not organic. Over the centuries, the Mass has changed but usually the changes were organically developed and built onto aspects that were already there.
 
OraLabora said:
And the OF I attend doesn’t have anything in particular that I’m missing that requires me to drive 100 km to seek out an EF Mass 🙂 .It’s the OF as Vatican II intended: propers and ordinary in Gregorian chant sung a cappella, pipe organ as only instrument, chanted readings, prayers and EP in French plainchant, incense, bells, reverent silent pauses where relevant, etc.

Whatever nourishes your faith wherever you are. If I had to drive 100 km to find such an OF Mass but there was an EF nearby I’d go to the EF. But I’d also fight to have a better OF locally.
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Well aren’t you spoiled.
 
codefro said:
Wow, your OF sounds very rich and awesome. I wish my OF was more liturgically rich. I am currently in RCIA at that church, but there is a Latin Mass at another parish at noon on Sundays that I have wanted to attend from time to time, but it is hard with schedules.

Whoever said ‘organic’: I believe that word should never be used about Catholic mass, lol. 🙂
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Organic, when referring to liturgical developments, refers to the very slow, methodical way of making changes to the liturgy. This is the way the liturgy was changed for about 1970 years, until the Novus Ordo was promulgated by HH Paul VI, in which case the change was fast, sweeping, and in many cases, over the top.

When we say “organic” on these forums, we don’t mean vegetables.
 
YoungTradCath said:
Organic, when referring to liturgical developments, refers to the very slow, methodical way of making changes to the liturgy. This is the way the liturgy was changed for about 1970 years, until the Novus Ordo was promulgated by HH Paul VI, in which case the change was fast, sweeping, and in many cases, over the top.

When we say “organic” on these forums, we don’t mean vegetables.
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I guess I think of it differently because when I was a Protestant and studied church structure they meant it in a way that is like “Less liturgical structure” and into “what someone is feeling in the moment.” Selecting leaders based on peoples gifts and not really on a divine calling and process.
 
codefro said:
I guess I think of it differently because when I was a Protestant and studied church structure they meant it in a way that is like “Less liturgical structure” and into “what someone is feeling in the moment.” Selecting leaders based on peoples gifts and not really on a divine calling and process.
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No lol. Organic is just very slow, natural, harmonious change, when referring to Catholic liturgical development. Like changing one or two small things every fifty years.
 
YoungTradCath said:
No lol. Organic is just very slow, natural, harmonious change, when referring to Catholic liturgical development. Like changing one or two small things every fifty years.
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My bad, and my apologies. I am still learning how terms mean different things between Catholics and Protestants.
 
I am pretty pleased with the new translation but the music (Mass setting) that was selected by our pastor is Marty Haugen’s Mass of Creation. It, to me, is horrible.

The priest says its easy to use because most people are familiar with it. Looks like I’d better get a newer car to make the long drive to either Seattle or Portland.
 
I like the new date of Christ the King sunday. I also like the possibility to receive Holy Communion under both kinds, and that permanent deacons can be ordained.
 
Albrecht said:
I like the new date of Christ the King sunday. I also like the possibility to receive Holy Communion under both kinds, and that permanent deacons can be ordained.
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What is the new date? Is Christ the King Sunday not this upcoming Sunday?
 
It is. He means new, as in, new as compared to the Extraordinary Form date.
 
Never mind, I got that wrong. This Sunday is Christ the King for the EF, yes.
 
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