good points of islam

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yes, im the first to admit, i have no love for islam, however, there is one thing i like about islam…
that is it makes me faith in Jesus so much more stronger.
It makes me realise how false it is and how wonderful Catholicism is.
why do you admire islam?
 
and yeah, i know, the heading is strange coming from someone like me 😛
 
We tend to like the things about other religions that are like Catholocism.
 
kmoore said:
We tend to like the things about other religions that are like Catholocism.
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And that’s a good thing, doncha think? 🙂 I mean really–whatever is true is true no matter the theology it’s wrapped in or the ism it inhabits.

I admire their emphasis on family and respect for the unborn. If it weren’t for the support of our Muslim brethren, the UN would run amok, killing babies throughout the world. As it is they can only spread their poison just so far because both the Vatican and Muslim countries are fighting them. Let’s give props where they are deserved, I say!
 
Their reverence for the Eternal. Their devotion to prayer. Their respect for scripture and how it is handled…I mean physically. A Muslim acquaintance washes his hands before he handles his scriptures…he NEVER EVER places the Holy Quran on the floor…nor does he place anything on top of it. His devotion to respecting his religious items is endearing.
 
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Their respect for scripture and how it is handled…I mean physically. A Muslim acquaintance washes his hands before he handles his scriptures…he NEVER EVER places the Holy Quran on the floor…nor does he place anything on top of it. His devotion to respecting his religious items is endearing.
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I understand you are responding to the post, but take a Christian farmer for example. Working the fields in dirt and mud,… plowing, seeding and working hard…

The farmer takes a break out in the fields for a snack and to read the Bible.

Are you telling me because the farmers hands are dirty and not washed, he cannot read the Word of God?

There is a sunna (mohamads teaching) amongst the muslims where there is no water for them to wash their hands for prayer and handling the koran, the alternative is dirt/sand. They must “wash” their hands in dirt/sand 3 times or something like that.

And as far as …
nor does he place anything on top ot if
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  • yes you are right.
If there is a Bible, the Bible cannot be anywhere near their koran. So much for Holy Books, aye…?

Their koran must be on top because Our Bible and the Word of God (not allah), is beneath them.
 
Publisher said:
Their reverence for the Eternal. Their devotion to prayer. Their respect for scripture and how it is handled…I mean physically. A Muslim acquaintance washes his hands before he handles his scriptures…he NEVER EVER places the Holy Quran on the floor…nor does he place anything on top of it. His devotion to respecting his religious items is endearing.
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i truly respect the muslim’s reverence for God, but i am saddened that they respect a false document, the quaran, more than the Truth of life itself that God created.

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark
 
Eucharisted said:
I like Muslims’ perservance in prayer and purity.
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I do too! I also, and I don’t know if this has to do so much with Islam or simply with Muslims, but I absolutely love their zeal. The one’s I’ve seen always show a real appreciation for their, a true devotion. Piety, that’s what they have! I haven’t viewed on of their worship services, however, so I don’t know if they carry that certain majesty that one can find especially in the Eastern churches.

Under Islam there was made some absolutely fantastic pieces of art, and they’d wonderful architecture. I like the poetry.
 
yes its wonderful how muslims pray
but Jesus did teach us to pray in our rooms (in our own time and not show off)
do you forget that?
Our prayers are to God, not for the world to see, we pray anytime anywhere, but dont have to make a show about it.
sorry guys, im sick of thinking how everyone thinks its wonderful how they pray in the open when Jesus instructed us to pray to him on our own time, not to show off, as we get more rewards for praying by ourselves than on show!
 
dolphinlove said:
yes its wonderful how muslims pray
but Jesus did teach us to pray in our rooms (in our own time and not show off)
do you forget that?
Our prayers are to God, not for the world to see, we pray anytime anywhere, but dont have to make a show about it.
sorry guys, im sick of thinking how everyone thinks its wonderful how they pray in the open when Jesus instructed us to pray to him on our own time, not to show off, as we get more rewards for praying by ourselves than on show!
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I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. What about the public Mass said in St. Peter’s Square with all the finery of office and music and liturgy? There’s nothing wrong with public prayer. If Muslims also pray in private, which I don’t doubt that they do, just as we do, and have public liturgies as well, how are they any different?

Let’s not create a false dichotomy here. We have to be fair to others, and see things from their perspective if we want them to do the same to us. 😉
 
Moslems are so pure they will have many wives to avoid committing adultery.

And they will enter into temporary marriages, sometimes just a few hours long, to avoid fornication.
 
Things I like in Islam are:
  1. Jealousy on the religion.
  2. Regulating clothes for both men and women.
No more than that…
 
dolphinlove said:
What do you mean about the jealousy part Sam?
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There are some Muslims who don’t accept that Allah nor anyone of his prophets to be humiliated no matter how, a good example is this:
Sam_777 said:
April 29, 2009:
“On Tuesday, Molleindustria pulled Faith Fighter from its Web site, after the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) released a statement saying that it was “incendiary in its content and offensive to Muslims and Christians.””

I wish the Vatican had taken action before the OIC…😦

Jesus love and respect is above all things.
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What I was pointing out is we can see good parts in others religions without deviating from the truth of Catholicism. That does not mean that makes those religions necessarily compatible with Catholicism. There are some very disturbing things about Islam. I can tell you as a Muslim they are not tolerant with other religions even to the extreme of making it a Capital offense to evangelize Muslims or for a Muslim to convert from Islam. Forgiveness is not part of their theology. The point I am trying to make is that we need to be careful to not to glamorize any religion because it has good ideas or they show some good virtues. Just learn how to be a better Catholic. We have the full truth.
 
jakasaki said:
I understand you are responding to the post, but take a Christian farmer for example. Working the fields in dirt and mud,… plowing, seeding and working hard…

The farmer takes a break out in the fields for a snack and to read the Bible.

Are you telling me because the farmers hands are dirty and not washed, he cannot read the Word of God?

There is a sunna (mohamads teaching) amongst the muslims where there is no water for them to wash their hands for prayer and handling the koran, the alternative is dirt/sand. They must “wash” their hands in dirt/sand 3 times or something like that.

And as far as … - yes you are right.

If there is a Bible, the Bible cannot be anywhere near their koran. So much for Holy Books, aye…?

Their koran must be on top because Our Bible and the Word of God (not allah), is beneath them.
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Yes Friend, I was responding to the post…not to provide fodder for anti Muslim sentinments.

Peace to you.
 
dolphinlove said:
yes, im the first to admit, i have no love for islam, however, there is one thing i like about islam…
that is it makes me faith in Jesus so much more stronger.
It makes me realise how false it is and how wonderful Catholicism is.
why do you admire islam?
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According to Seyyed Hosein Nasr, author of The Heart of Islam: Enduring Values for Humanity there was never an Inquisition in Islam. He explained this as being due to Islam’s strong spirit of latitudinarianism.

I thought it was an interesting point (one that could be debated, to be sure) because it conflicts with the received stereotype of Muslims as religious fanatics.
 
From the Dictionary of Islamic Terms: good - adj., characterized by the advancement of Islam.

“Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached. – Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Paleologus, c. AD 1394

Anything about Islam that appears “good” is eyewash for the unwary and the gullible. Religion is the smallest part of Islamic foundational texts and is there only to appeal to the human’s natural tendency to do what is right. Brahmachari writes about the Muslim conquests of parts of his native India:
The behavioral pattern of Allah, as reflected in the Koran, reveals him as a partisan deity, similar to a Mafia don …, who seeks to gain control over the entire world to establish himself as its sole ruler through bloodshed and terror.
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St. John of Damascus (c. AD 750) is considered one of the great Fathers of the Church. His critique of Islam, or “the heresy of the Ishmaelites,” is about the debates with Muslims at that time. As you read it, ask yourself if any of it sounds familiar:
…when we say: ‘How is it that this prophet [Mohammed] of yours did not come in the same way [as Christ], with others bearing witness to him? And how is it that God did not in your presence present this man [Mohammed] with the book to which you refer, even as He gave the Law to Moses, with the people looking on and the mountain smoking, so that you, too, might have certainty?’ – they answer that God does as He pleases. ‘This,’ we say, ‘we know, but we are asking how the book came down to your prophet.’ Then they reply that the book came down to him while he was asleep. Then we jokingly say to them that, as long as he received the book in his sleep and did not actually sense the operation, then the popular adage applies to him (which runs: You’re spinning me dreams.)
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When we ask again: ‘How is it that when he enjoined us in this book of yours not to do anything or receive anything without witnesses, you did not ask him: “First do you show us by witnesses that you are a prophet and that you have come from God, and show us just what Scriptures there are that testify about you”’ – they are ashamed and remain silent. [Then we continue:] ‘Although you may not marry a wife without witnesses, or buy, or acquire property; although you neither receive a donkey nor possess a beast of burden unwitnessed; and although you do possess both wives and property and donkeys and so on through witnesses, yet it is only your faith and your scriptures that you hold unsubstantiated by witnesses. For he who handed this down to you has no warranty from any source, nor is there anyone known who testified about him before he came. On the contrary, he received it while he was asleep.’
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[Emphasis added.]

Since Islam’s origins, according to St. John, make no theological sense, the conclusion is that Emperor Manuel and Brahmachari were right. And in view of St. John’s observations, one wonders if there is anything about Islam that makes sense.
 
sedonaman said:
Since Islam’s origins, according to St. John, make no theological sense, the conclusion is that Emperor Manuel and Brahmachari were right. And in view of St. John’s observations, one wonders if there is anything about Islam that makes sense.
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I take it you don’t think God is great, then? Or one? Because a blanket condemnation is just that (that is, it covers everything).
 
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