Good Possession?

[Rachel_1]

I’m trying to find out if anyone knows of a Saint that had either an angel or Jesus speak to them ‘through’ someone else. Not so much so like the Holy Spirit enabling someone to speak something, but more like an angel or Jesus kind of took over their body (like a possession of sorts but a good one) and spoke with someone. Does anyone know if anything like that has happened before?

 

[styrgwillidar]

Never heard of something like that, and I have my doubts that it would occur based on two things:

1. Possession would imply on over-riding of a person’s control of themselves and hence free will.
2. We are taught that Jesus is the last prophet (spokesperson/messenger of God), if He or one of his Angels took possession of someone to speak for God, I would think this would be a contradiction.

Now, this is off the top of my head and a gut reaction, more extensive research and review of church teaching may indicate differently.

 

[Rachel_1]

Never heard of something like that, and I have my doubts that it would occur based on two things:

1. Possession would imply on over-riding of a person’s control of themselves and hence free will.
2. We are taught that Jesus is the last prophet (spokesperson/messenger of God), if He or one of his Angels took possession of someone to speak for God, I would think this would be a contradiction.

Now, this is off the top of my head and a gut reaction, more extensive research and review of church teaching may indicate differently.

I don’t mean like speaking through someone to give a message to the world like that. I mean more like speaking through someone just personal guidance or something, something meant specifically for that person.

 

[styrgwillidar]

My thinking is, that if a third party gets involved they become a kind of messenger to the person receiving the revelation. Now, your point may be valid, that the limitations involved in the situation you defined preclude considering the possessed to be a messenger. I just don’t know.

 

[Monica4316]

I’m trying to find out if anyone knows of a Saint that had either an angel or Jesus speak to them ‘through’ someone else. Not so much so like the Holy Spirit enabling someone to speak something, but more like an angel or Jesus kind of took over their body (like a possession of sorts but a good one) and spoke with someone. Does anyone know if anything like that has happened before?

I’ve never heard this. In my understanding, God never takes over the person’s free will. Certainly He can and does speak through people, and some people receive messages from Jesus, Mary, etc to share with others, - but it’s something they could say no to if they wish. God respects our free will… that is just my understanding.

 

[Rachel_1]

I’ve never heard this. In my understanding, God never takes over the person’s free will. Certainly He can and does speak through people, and some people receive messages from Jesus, Mary, etc to share with others, - but it’s something they could say no to if they wish. God respects our free will… that is just my understanding.

Perhaps the person being used though has given his will to God or something though?

 

[Thoma25]

Possession only occurs with demonic entities as it is an overriding of one’s will, usually after a period of infatuation and infestation.

Many people have been known to go into ecstasies of religious fervor, which is valid so long as it does not lead to delusion or an attachment to these emotional states.

Private revelation is also possible, but which must be strenuously analyzed for deception, as the source of such revelation may well be demonic.

At any rate, I’d be highly skeptical of any such occurrences, and only hold to them insofar as they have been approved by the Church, and conform to Church teaching.

 

[Claire_from_DE]

God is a gentleman. He doesn’t possess people in the way you describe. If he wants someone to tell you something He doesn’t do it in that way.