Gospel on Palm Sunday

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puzzleannie:
it is an option, not a mandate, permissible in reading the Passion on Palm Sunday and Good Friday.
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I understand it is an option.

What I meant was that it’s an option that has almost always been used at parishes I’ve attended. I’m wondering if my experience is typical or if most parishes don’t use it.
 
Now we’re getting somewhere. After being lambasted for being a sexist, or whatever. Now, should the woman reader read the parts for Jesus? Should she have stood somewhere other than the ambo?
 
Just for the record, the use of three readers with the priest only representing Jesus is an ancient tradition. I heard it honored in the traditional plainchant, and very beautifully, in no less a place than Rome some years ago.

The innovation is having the entire congregation represent the crowds. This is both a sumerimposition on the rubrics (to put it politely) and an intrusion upon the members of the congregation, who can very reasonably not be expected to be comfortable with this kind of forced participation.
 
John Lilburne:
Women cannot be instituted lectors. According to 2002 GIRM “101. In the absence of an instituted lector, other laypersons may be commissioned to proclaim the readings from Sacred Scripture. …”.

So I think ideally there should be four deacons. If there were one priest, one deacon and two instituted lectors then a women should not be considered for the reading of the Passion Gospel.
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I don’t understand why “women cannot be instituted lectors” from the info that you supplied. I promise I’m not being cute, I really want to understand. Or do you mean that it states somewhere else that women can’t be “institued lectors”, but that in this case a woman could happen to be an “other layperson(s)”?

Thanks!
 
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SentLarry:
Now we’re getting somewhere. After being lambasted for being a sexist, or whatever. Now, should the woman reader read the parts for Jesus? Should she have stood somewhere other than the ambo?
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Dear Brother, SentLarry

Post #2 and #8 were attempts at sarcasm
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God Bless
 
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SentLarry:
This morning at Palm Sunday mass a woman stood at the Ambo and read part of the Passion Gospel.

I don’t think this is approved. Where does it say this in the GIRM, or Rubriks?
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The same thing happened at my church. I understood the need, because there has been a shortage of priests at my parish, but it was odd to hear a female voice speaking as Peter, in the one section. LOL :eek:

Oh well…these are just technicalities. I don’t lose sleep over these things…
 
QUICUMQUE VULT:
Dear Brother, SentLarry

Post #2 and #8 were attempts at sarcasm
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God Bless
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And very poor attempts I must say! As a faithful Catholic woman who embraces all the teachings of the Catholic Church and who loves being a woman in the Church I felt insulted by those attempts and I suddenly understood how someone who didn’t understand the beauty and truth in Catholic teaching could think that women were oppressed within our ranks!
 
PS–What is the big deal of having a woman reading the Gospel? I mean, in today’s instance? I think if you’re sitting in the pew focused on that, instead of the Gospel reading, wow…you are missing sooooo much at mass! :cool:
 
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bejonama:
And very poor attempts I must say! As a faithful Catholic woman who embraces all the teachings of the Catholic Church and who loves being a woman in the Church I felt insulted by those attempts and I suddenly understood how someone who didn’t understand the beauty and truth in Catholic teaching could think that women were oppressed within our ranks!
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No one thinks women are oppresed. Certain feminist groups, and individuals here in the USA. claim to be oppressed.
hence the sarcasm
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Today at mass, 3 lectors were used to read the gospel, the priest sat and did not participate at all. The lectors all took the different parts. Is this liturgically correct? Thanks
 
Three readers plus the Congregation is correct. However, a dleric [bishop, priest or deacon] should read the parts spoken by Jesus.
 
Joe Kelley:
Three readers plus the Congregation is correct. However, a dleric [bishop, priest or deacon] should read the parts spoken by Jesus.
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No, the Congregation should not participate.

"The passion narrative occupies a special place. It should be sung or read in the traditional way, that is, by three persons who take the parts of Christ, the narrator and the people. The passion is proclaimed by deacons or priests, or by lay readers. In the latter case, the part of Christ should be reserved to the priest. " --from Paschales Solemnitatis, instruction from the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments.
 
Our missalette has the Passion in four parts: Narrator, Christ, Voice, Crowd. Today, our priest invited the congregation to recite the part of Our Lord, and he handled the Crowd parts. Didn’t seem right.
 
Deacon Ed:
Those posters who noted that this gospel is the single exception to the norm are correct. A priest or deacon must read the part of Jesus while the other parts may be read by readers in the parish (assuming there are not sufficent deacons and/or priests). This multi-part form of the Gospel is permitted only for the passion narrative which means it is only used on Palm Sunday and Good Friday.

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At the Cathedral, with the Archbishop presiding, we had 3 priests and a deacon and STILL a woman had to read. :confused:
 
Well, at the parish I go to the parts were divided up between the priest, and two male cantors. The lay people did not say a word. The entire Passion was chanted, Gregorian chant. No room for error or confusion here.

Ken
 
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SentLarry:
Now we’re getting somewhere. After being lambasted for being a sexist, or whatever. Now, should the woman reader read the parts for Jesus? Should she have stood somewhere other than the ambo?
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The woman was probably the cantor and she probably read the part of Peter and a few other characters.

Only the priest or deacon can read the parts for Jesus.

As for women lectors, we have several in our parish, particularly at the daily 7am mass. I don’t see a problem with this at all, either personally or in the GIRM.

However, women lectors only read the readings, responsorial psalms, and/or prayers of petition. ONLY the priest or deacon can read the Gospel.
 
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krysianka:
I don’t understand why “women cannot be instituted lectors” from the info that you supplied. I promise I’m not being cute, I really want to understand. Or do you mean that it states somewhere else that women can’t be “institued lectors”, but that in this case a woman could happen to be an “other layperson(s)”?

Thanks!
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I mean it states someone else that women cannot become insitituted lectors.

Code of Canon Law, canon 230: “Lay men whose age and talents meet the requirements prescribed by decree of the Bishops’ Conference, can be given the stable ministry of lector and of acolyte, through the prescribed liturgical rite. …”. (From The Code of Canon Law: New Revised English Translation, HarperCollins Liturgical, 1997, ISBN 0-00-599375-X, page 49).

It is also in the Motu Proprio “Ministeria Quaedam” of 15 August 1972 by Pope Paul VI: “7. In accordance with the ancient tradition of the Church, institution to the ministries of reader and acolyte is reserved to men.” (From Documents on the Liturgy 1963-1979, Liturgical Press, Minnesota, 1982).
 
Our church had a woman read Jesus. Priest and deacon read other parts.
 
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