Gossip versus Family Discussions

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I know that gossiping is a sin; but if you have a family member who has narcissistic personality disorder and is always putting everyone else down, using everyone, bullying others into mortgaging their homes so they can get money, making everyone feel guilty for not catering to their needs, always borrowing money, but then buying the most expensive wines and going on cruises, etc… can you discuss these issues with other family members (who are already aware of everything anyway), so you can support each other in realizing you’re not the crazy ones and to be aware of situations that might have an affect on the family, etc… :confused:
 
I know that gossiping is a sin; but if you have a family member who has narcissistic personality disorder and is always putting everyone else down, using everyone, bullying others into mortgaging their homes so they can get money, making everyone feel guilty for not catering to their needs, always borrowing money, but then buying the most expensive wines and going on cruises, etc… can you discuss these issues with other family members (who are already aware of everything anyway), so you can support each other in realizing you’re not the crazy ones and to be aware of situations that might have an affect on the family, etc… :confused:
Sure you can discuss it with family members, but if this has been going on for any length of time, surely they must already know how this person works? Ultimately, even if the entire rest of your family chooses to be used in this way, you can learn to say “NO!” anytime you see this person heading your way, and what the others do is their problem–not yours!
 
It might help to consider this section from the Catechism that treats the 8th commandment:
2477 *Respect for the reputation of persons forbids every attitude and word likely to cause them unjust injury.278 He becomes guilty:
  • of rash judgment who, even tacitly, assumes as true, without sufficient foundation, the moral fault of a neighbor;
  • of detraction who, without objectively valid reason, discloses another’s faults and failings to persons who did not know them;279
  • of calumny who, by remarks contrary to the truth, harms the reputation of others and gives occasion for false judgments concerning them. *
When you consider a discussion of someone else’s faults, ask yourself these questions: Is what I am saying true, a guess (charitable? not charitable?), an exaggeration, or a falsehood? Is what I am saying going to unjustly harm someone or preserve someone from harm they do not deserve or might avoid by having this information–will any good come of hashing over this or disclosing this? Is there a more charitable way of achieving the same end without putting this other person’s reputation in danger?

What you’re talking about may be not only morally permissible, but morally necessary. I would give these two cautions: 1) Attack behaviors or behavior patterns instead of persons. 2) When possible, counsel others to decisions that are wise in a general sense rather than warning them away from particular persons.

On that note, it is wise to avoid misplaced pity or trust that present a near occasion of sin to someone else. Likewise, it is OK to counsel someone not to put this family member you are talking about into a near occasion or temptation towards sin by making sin easy for them. A pastor I had taught me, for instance, that it is not insulting to others to keep your purse with you at Mass. It is, rather, the charitable act of keeping people who are tempted to pick-pocket from having access to a near occasion of sin. If everyone keeps their purses close, these people who might have used a church as a place to commit theft will not have an opportunity to sin, and that is a good thing for them.

IOW, this is something you have to discern as you go along. The example you gave sounds perfectly fine, provided you don’t get into the habit of discussing this relative more than is necessary to achieve the good end you’re talking about.

I would caution, too, that people with these disorders can act in very spiteful ways. It is OK to stay off of their radar, too. Not going on the record as saying things about them specifically can be smart. Whenever possible, no matter who you are talking about, word what you say in a way that the subject could hear with the least bad fallout for anyone, including both yourself and them. This is generally true, but it is an especially good strategy for dealing with someone who would harm you if they knew you were saying anything less than flattering about them.
 
I know that gossiping is a sin; but if you have a family member who has narcissistic personality disorder and is always putting everyone else down, using everyone, bullying others into mortgaging their homes so they can get money, making everyone feel guilty for not catering to their needs, always borrowing money, but then buying the most expensive wines and going on cruises, etc… can you discuss these issues with other family members (who are already aware of everything anyway), so you can support each other in realizing you’re not the crazy ones and to be aware of situations that might have an affect on the family, etc… :confused:
I was talking to a priest about a similar situation just a few days ago. He told me that there’s a fine line between normal commiserating/giving just warnings and detraction/calumny. He told me that as long as one sticks to objective facts and not subjective statements or hearsay then it shouldn’t pose much of a problem. In other words, telling Aunt Jane that she might want to reconsider getting that second mortgage in order to help out Cousin Lonnie because he never paid you back when you did the same shouldn’t be a problem; calling him a backstabbing, greedy son of a gun in the process wouldn’t.
 
I wouldn’t call that Gossip ,it’s a family discussion about a family member that is tearing the family apart, it should be discussed with rational sensible mature family members to work out how best to handle this family matter, sometimes you need to be hard to be kind,
 
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