Got kicked out of my church

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I’m just as surprised as you. But then at the same time I’m not all that surprised considering the makeup of CAF. What I’d like to know is all of these people who are saying the OP needs to apologize first (which the OP is planning to do anyway if I understood correctly), do they expect the priest to likewise apology? And what if he does not?
That’s a fairly harsh statement. I’m one who, I suppose, “sided with the priest”. I’m also a brand new Catholic, baptized and confirmed at Easter 2015. My understanding is that we are called to obedience and humility. Perhaps the priest was wrong- and he, too, is called to obedience (to God) and humility. But that’s his issue. My response was to the OP. There seems to be a lot of posts in here essentially back-slapping the OP for the pride and temper he displayed in the confessional. I find that disturbing.
 
That’s not cool. I deal with bipolar and was having an episode then. Do you feel like a jerk, now? Any decent CAF posters, pray for me. I can’t believe someone would post what you just posted. Are you stalking me??
I hope you will re-read this post of yours, Binto, and pray on it.
 
I hope you will re-read this post of yours, Binto, and pray on it.
Why? This person doesn’t know me. None of you do. I don’t expect to be judged by a post I made 8 months ago. It’s a little unfair. And yes. Many CAF posters totally go over the line. I just filter through them
 
I’ve always struggled with going to mass every sunday, but I make it 90% of the time. He knows this too.
I can’t speak for the situation that happened, but the wording of this bothers me. I apologize if I’m in the wrong here but I’m interpreting this like you were almost giving yourself a pass. God didn’t ask us to keep holy the sabbath day “90%” of the time. Someone isn’t faithful to their spouse 90% of the time. When we hold ourselves accountable we should just admit we’re fully wrong and be done with it – and place all of our trust in the mercy of God, but here are no excuses, if, ands or buts about it.
 
Why? This person doesn’t know me. None of you do. I don’t expect to be judged by a post I made 8 months ago. It’s a little unfair. And yes. Many CAF posters totally go over the line. I just filter through them
Because it was prideful and angry. If you come here with an issue, you need to have enough humility to accept all the responses and to meditate on them and ask God to help you discern which responses might be helpful to your journey of Faith.
 
Why? This person doesn’t know me. None of you do. I don’t expect to be judged by a post I made 8 months ago. It’s a little unfair. And yes. Many CAF posters totally go over the line. I just filter through them
That post was only 2 months back. I was quite knocked off my chair by it too. The reason I decided to look back a little way was there are obvious holes in your backstory. I was also alerted by the use of the classic catchphrase …“This is why people leave the church”. In both posts you’ve displayed behaviour towards these people that is disrespectful and manipulative and I’m certainly not going to join a chorus of condemnation for a Priest… a spiritual director… without some context for clarity.
 
Why? This person doesn’t know me. None of you do. I don’t expect to be judged by a post I made 8 months ago. It’s a little unfair. And yes. Many CAF posters totally go over the line. I just filter through them
None of us should be judging others, period, but we do have to evaluate others’ present actions based on what we know of them from their past actions. In this case, there are weaknesses in the story you have presented. This priest has been your spiritual director for two years, with neither of you ending that relationship, but suddenly blows up at you over missing your Sunday obligation and bans you from the Newman Center?

The previous post indicates to me that you have a history of acting in a manner that is deceptive and two-faced, and being proud of your ability to do so. It does not demonstrate humility, but rather arrogance and pride. Your response to it now does not demonstrate to me that this was action taken while you were subject to symptoms of a mental illness (and my sympathies for your struggle with bipolar disorder, but I fail to see how deliberately deceiving a professor, insulting that person behind their back, and bragging about it are symptomatic of that disorder), but rather that you are using your mental illness to try to obtain a “free pass” for your past bad behaviour.

It seems to me that there is probably a lot more going on here than was initially said. I don’t know for certain what the priest may or may not have done or said, but I do know that what you admit to saying was abusive and requires an apology. Perhaps once tempers are cooled, you could offer that apology and ask for advice on a way forward.
 
None of us should be judging others, period, but we do have to evaluate others’ present actions based on what we know of them from their past actions. In this case, there are weaknesses in the story you have presented. This priest has been your spiritual director for two years, with neither of you ending that relationship, but suddenly blows up at you over missing your Sunday obligation and bans you from the Newman Center?

The previous post indicates to me that you have a history of acting in a manner that is deceptive and two-faced, and being proud of your ability to do so. It does not demonstrate humility, but rather arrogance and pride. Your response to it now does not demonstrate to me that this was action taken while you were subject to symptoms of a mental illness (and my sympathies for your struggle with bipolar disorder, but I fail to see how deliberately deceiving a professor, insulting that person behind their back, and bragging about it are symptomatic of that disorder), but rather that you are using your mental illness to try to obtain a “free pass” for your past bad behaviour.

It seems to me that there is probably a lot more going on here than was initially said. I don’t know for certain what the priest may or may not have done or said, but I do know that what you admit to saying was abusive and requires an apology. Perhaps once tempers are cooled, you could offer that apology and ask for advice on a way forward.
Friend, I really don’t care about half these opinions, including yours. Welcome to the internet, everyone! This thread is becoming ridiculous. I don’t know any of you, so I’m not taking a lot of these psychologizing opinions seriously. “Two faced”?? Seriously??? Thank you to those who have responded with internet savvy. Your posts have been very charitable and have really helped me. God bless and just pray. These forums need it!
 
…it made me think, “This is why people leave the church”.
Anyone who would leave the Church because they felt someone was being rude to them clearly hasn’t got their head screwed on properly.

A serious Catholic should understand that everyone has sin: both priests, as well as those lay faithful who, without grave reason, miss Sunday Mass a half-dozen times per year. They would understand, moreover, that such failings have absolutely nothing to do with the validity of the Catholic faith. The reasoning is obvious and self-evident: you don’t judge the efficacy of a medicine by those who need it but refuse to take it.
 
And, to clarify, that spat with the priest was the ONLY reason he kicked me out. Truly. I regret that post I made 2 months ago, but that doesn’t reflect the person I am. The problem with strangers on the internet is that they’ll judge something like that and they’ve never even spoken to me.

Pray for me 🙂
 
Binto - All of us took the time to read your initial post and still tried to give you the benefit of the doubt despite only hearing your side of the story. We tried to give advice to the best of our ability based on what we knew. Learning to be humble and admit we might be in the wrong is not easy. I hope you will find a new spiritual director or try to make pesce with the priest from the Newman Center. It is not easy to be bipolar, but it seems like you have a lot of work to do in many areas.
Good luck and God bless!
 
Yeah. I’m a stubborn prideful S.O.B. that’s for sure. Thanks for reading my posts. I’m sorry for any wrongdoing. I was just really hurt by this situation.
 
Friend, I really don’t care about half these opinions, including yours. Welcome to the internet, everyone! This thread is becoming ridiculous. I don’t know any of you, so I’m not taking a lot of these psychologizing opinions seriously. “Two faced”?? Seriously??? Thank you to those who have responded with internet savvy. Your posts have been very charitable and have really helped me. God bless and just pray. These forums need it!
Then I have to question what your purpose was in posting the question. It sounds to me like you only wanted your actions validated.

I’m curious, since this was two months ago- did you work things out with the priest?
 
Then I have to question what your purpose was in posting the question. It sounds to me like you only wanted your actions validated.

I’m curious, since this was two months ago- did you work things out with the priest?
The spat with the priest was Friday. The “two months ago” thing was when I felt like a douchebag Thomist (as all Catholic philosophers do at one point) and wanted to just act like an A-hole. I thought it was funny. I’m 23. Gve me a break.

I probably do want to be validated. Pray I recieve the humility to accept the truths of this situation, good and bad, and learn from it.That’s probably all I can ask from you guys. Sorry for being brash. I’m a firey one (Thanks, Mom)
 
The spat with the priest was Friday. The “two months ago” thing was when I felt like a douchebag Thomist (as all Catholic philosophers do at one point) and wanted to just act like an A-hole. I thought it was funny. I’m 23. Gve me a break.

I probably do want to be validated. Pray I recieve the humility to accept the truths of this situation, good and bad, and learn from it.That’s probably all I can ask from you guys. Sorry for being brash. I’m a firey one (Thanks, Mom)
Ah. Well I wish you luck on resolving that, then, and will most assuredly add you to my prayers.
 
This thread is disintegrating and well past the point of asked and answered.

There appears to be some issues on both sides of the fence and the ball is squarely in Binto’s court - so to speak.

Perhaps the thread should be closed now?
 
This thread is disintegrating and well past the point of asked and answered.

There appears to be some issues on both sides of the fence and the ball is squarely in Binto’s court - so to speak.

Perhaps the thread should be closed now?
I agree. The healing process is already happening with my priest… Consider it closed!
 
The spat with the priest was Friday. The “two months ago” thing was when I felt like a *** Thomist (as all Catholic philosophers do at one point) and wanted to just act like an ***. I thought it was funny. I’m 23. Gve me a break.
Oh, come on. At 23, many people have graduated college with a Bachelor’s and are well on their way to making a start at a career. They should have put childish things behind them, like being a jerk to their professors. I don’t think you deserve a break. I think you deserve to put on your big-boy pants and be treated like the man you should be.

Also, as someone who also suffers from bipolar disorder, I will say that it’s high time you stop leaning on it as a crutch to excuse bad behavior. You are not your disease. We may have poor impulse control, at times, but personally, my manic episodes are when the “true me” comes out in public, and like it or not, that “true me” is someone I have come to terms with and someone who is undeniably a part of me. I no longer make excuses based on my disorder.

And that brings me to an important point. Have you sought treatment for your bipolar, and are you holding to the regimen recommended by your psychiatrist? One hallmark of bipolar is that people won’t stick to treatment or stay on meds for very long. But effective management of your symptoms only comes with a surrender to treatment on a regular basis from the best doctor you can find. So if you haven’t yet, please seek professional help, because bipolar will ruin your life, trust me on this one. I was just about your age when I was first diagnosed, and I let the thing run rampant in my life until I was almost 40. I was quite lucky to make it out alive.

I am not sure that I can believe your claim that the priest blew up at you for no good reason. It certainly doesn’t comport with my experience at my Newman Center. I was thrown out for pretty good reasons, and let me tell you, I learned my lessons right then and there. Perhaps it was kind of the opposite of yours (my sin was mostly over-participation) but I can’t help but see the similarities in our parallel experiences.
 
Oh, come on. At 23, many people have graduated college with a Bachelor’s and are well on their way to making a start at a career. They should have put childish things behind them, like being a jerk to their professors. I don’t think you deserve a break. I think you deserve to put on your big-boy pants and be treated like the man you should be.

Also, as someone who also suffers from bipolar disorder, I will say that it’s high time you stop leaning on it as a crutch to excuse bad behavior. You are not your disease. We may have poor impulse control, at times, but personally, my manic episodes are when the “true me” comes out in public, and like it or not, that “true me” is someone I have come to terms with and someone who is undeniably a part of me. I no longer make excuses based on my disorder.

And that brings me to an important point. Have you sought treatment for your bipolar, and are you holding to the regimen recommended by your psychiatrist? One hallmark of bipolar is that people won’t stick to treatment or stay on meds for very long. But effective management of your symptoms only comes with a surrender to treatment on a regular basis from the best doctor you can find. So if you haven’t yet, please seek professional help, because bipolar will ruin your life, trust me on this one. I was just about your age when I was first diagnosed, and I let the thing run rampant in my life until I was almost 40. I was quite lucky to make it out alive.

I am not sure that I can believe your claim that the priest blew up at you for no good reason. It certainly doesn’t comport with my experience at my Newman Center. I was thrown out for pretty good reasons, and let me tell you, I learned my lessons right then and there. Perhaps it was kind of the opposite of yours (my sin was mostly over-participation) but I can’t help but see the similarities in our parallel experiences.
Well, first of all, look at any other thread I started. They sound like they come from a pretty good kid to me. And quit judging. That was one post, and I really regret it. Don’t we all make mistakes? Oh, and by the way; I’m diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder. How do you, a stranger, feel about judging a really good kid by a young dumb post? 23 is still very young you ignoramus. I won’t graduate for several years because of my illness. And trust me, I’m more mature than most kids my age… I hang out with them! I know! Look at my other threads and tell me I’m not a great kid; one who excels with his young adult difficulties. I truly dare you to look at my threads, examine your conscience, and tell me that I’m a bad kid. I LOVE Jesus Christ, and if other posters can’t see that, then good riddance. I don’t need strangers assuming things about me that aren’t true. Especially people who are supposed to be as mature as you. Meet me in person, and you’ll regret the post you just sent. God bless you, brother/sister. I’m praying for you. If anyone relates, please post. I’m getting sick of this thread.
 
The spat with the priest was Friday. The “two months ago” thing was when I felt like a douchebag Thomist (as all Catholic philosophers do at one point) and wanted to just act like an A-hole. I thought it was funny. I’m 23. Gve me a break.
I realized that deceiving someone, as you did your professor, wasn’t funny when I was in fifth grade. So, no. I won’t give you a break. Welcome to the Internet.
 
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