Got my first hand missal :D

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So after today’s high mass, the church I went to have a sales of old books, and there were a few TLM old Missal.

The one I ended up getting is the “New Marian Missal”, Given imprimatur at 1958.

I forgot what are the three others. 2 of them are “St Pius X Daily Missal” (not SSPX Daily Missal). One is a St Joseph Daily Missal (TLM). I don’t think any of them are the 1962 edition.

Aside from some weekday feast days does not line up, the New Marian Missal is not bad (and I recall the pew actually have New Marian Missal, though look older). So I guess I made a good choice?
 
So after today’s high mass, the church I went to have a sales of old books, and there were a few TLM old Missal.

The one I ended up getting is the “New Marian Missal”, Given imprimatur at 1958.

I forgot what are the three others. 2 of them are “St Pius X Daily Missal” (not SSPX Daily Missal). One is a St Joseph Daily Missal (TLM). I don’t think any of them are the 1962 edition.

Aside from some weekday feast days does not line up, the New Marian Missal is not bad (and I recall the pew actually have New Marian Missal, though look older). So I guess I made a good choice?
👍 I started with the St. Joseph Missal. I gave that away to someone who was just starting to attend the TLM. I now use the Baronius Press Missal. That’s pretty cool that your parish had these available for sale.
 
Question: I noticed that there are some calendars difference: For example, mine stated Aug 8 are St Cyriacus, Largus, and Smaragus, but It seems like everyone have St John Viennay (Mine is shown under Aug 9). I go to one served by FSSP, and noted that their Pew have the New Marian Missal too – do they use the 1958 calendar or 1962 calendar?

Also, Some people purposely look for the New Marian Missal, old or reprint. May I ask what made it special? (I know in comparison to St Joseph and Pius X Missal, they actually have a bit more latin in the propers)

EDIT: I am sure it’s not a reprint, seeing it has 4 ribbons, not 2.
 
Question: I noticed some people purposely look for the New Marian Missal, old or reprint. May I ask what made it special? I go to one served by FSSP, and noted that their Pew have the New Marian Missal too – do they use the 1968 calendar or 1962 calendar?
Not sure. It seems it is hard to find (the 1958 version). From a review on Amazon…
The New Marian Missal is the only traditional Missal and likewise the only Missal that kept Latin in the Ordinary of the Mass even up to 1967
 
Question: I noticed that there are some calendars difference: For example, mine stated Aug 8 are St Cyriacus, Largus, and Smaragus, but It seems like everyone have St John Viennay (Mine is shown under Aug 9). I go to one served by FSSP, and noted that their Pew have the New Marian Missal too – do they use the 1958 calendar or 1962 calendar?
The FSSP use the 1962 calendar (it’s actually the 1960 calendar).

The Feast of St Cyriacus, Largus, and Smaragus was reduced to a commemoration and the third class Feast of St Jean-Marie Vianney was transferred from the 9th to the 8th (transferred again in the new calendar to Aug 4th and swapping places with the Feast of St Dominic). There were also a number of “duplicate” feasts that were removed (for instance “The Invention of St. Stephen Protomartyr” on Aug 3) and a handful of new feasts added.
 
I’ve been a collector of Catholic ephemera (castoffs found in thrift stores, mostly) since the late 1960s. Of all the missals I glommed onto in the post-Vatican II rush to “clean out the cobwebs” and “open the windows,” the 1958 New Marian Missal remains my favorite. Not because it organizes the liturgy any differently, or has more optional feasts for more saints on different days than any other, but because of the artwork. Count yourself lucky if you can find a black and red print edition. Also, the treasury of personal devotions at the back is well organized and comprehensive.

If you all remember your history, the missal was issued in commemoration of the 100th anniversary of the apparitions at Lourdes. It falls at the transition time between Pius XII and John XXIII. It was a difficult era for Catholics, but future President John F Kennedy was beginning his race for the White House and there was a new level of acceptance. No one could have predicted the changes that Vatican II would bring. Missals printed in that day and age were meant to last a lifetime. Now we get pew newsprint that’s recycled at the end of the liturgical season. 😦
 
Good find; when I wanted one and couldn’t wait for another to come up I splurged $60 or $80 for a leather bound 1962 copy of the New Marian Missal! Wonderful missal with full color illustrations. For some reason the reprint available now is in black and white.

Yes, I would say you made the best choice. The St. Joseph’s is good as a beginner missal and was the first I bought. I then bought the New Marian which was a definite improvement. I later used a 1952 book simply called The Missal from Burns, Oates, and Washbourne; Publishers to the Holy See. Now I switch between the Liber Brevior and Liber Usualis and make use of the modern notation sheet music for the Ordinary from an old hymnal called Our Parish Prays and Sings.
 
Good find; when I wanted one and couldn’t wait for another to come up I splurged $60 or $80 for a leather bound 1962 copy of the New Marian Missal! Wonderful missal with full color illustrations. For some reason the reprint available now is in black and white.

Yes, I would say you made the best choice (though if I were you I’d have likely bought them all!). The St. Joseph’s is good as a beginner missal and was the first I bought. I then bought the New Marian which was a definite improvement. I later used a 1952 book simply called The Missal from Burns, Oates, and Washbourne; Publishers to the Holy See. Now I switch between the Liber Brevior (1954; Gregorian Institute of America) and Liber Usualis (1959; OSB) and make use of the modern notation sheet music for the Ordinary from an old hymnal called Our Parish Prays and Sings (1959; OSB / The Liturgical Press).
 
So after today’s high mass, the church I went to have a sales of old books, and there were a few TLM old Missal.

The one I ended up getting is the “New Marian Missal”, Given imprimatur at 1958.

I forgot what are the three others. 2 of them are “St Pius X Daily Missal” (not SSPX Daily Missal). One is a St Joseph Daily Missal (TLM). I don’t think any of them are the 1962 edition.

Aside from some weekday feast days does not line up, the New Marian Missal is not bad (and I recall the pew actually have New Marian Missal, though look older). So I guess I made a good choice?
Yes, very good choice! You are fortunate to find it also.
As others have said - it has some great features: Latin language propers (Introit, Gradual, Offertory), beautiful artwork, nice commentary on parts of the Mass and also before each Sunday and feast, and little snippets from the Imitatio after each Mass.

It’s a treasury of prayer - and as with all of the old, original handmissals, it’s another means of connecting with the Holy Church of past times.
 
Thank you.

Aside from looking up to Parish Websites (and other Websites that announce the calendar, such as Materal Heart), how do I know which Propers should I be turned to (assumign i already know what proper is used one or two weeks ago?)
 
The FSSP at one time published an inexpensive ordo. Apparently they only have an on-line version now:
fsspolgs.org/liturgical1.html

But if you can figure out the math, which shouldn’t be that difficult - you can look in the front pages of your missal for the various dates which extended to the future and then do calculations that way since the years go through a cycle.
 
Thank you.

Aside from looking up to Parish Websites (and other Websites that announce the calendar, such as Materal Heart), how do I know which Propers should I be turned to (assumign i already know what proper is used one or two weeks ago?)
The parish should let you know in the bulletin for the week or somewhere else what propers to turn to on any given day. Next Sunday should be the 10th after Pentecost in the Extraordinary Form.
 
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