Gothic, Fiddleback, or Conical?

[Pope_Noah_I]

What’s your favorite chasuble style? I love the ornamentation of a nice fiddleback, but I love the flowing look of a gothic. Also, a small question. If traditionalists are so traditional, than why don’t they use the gothic more? It’s the type that was used for like, 1,600 years…

 

[bpbasilphx]

Speaking as someone from the outside looking in, it seems that when most people say “traditional”, they really mean what they remember (or think they remember) from their childhood.

 

[Sure]

I vote Gothic. The roman fiddlebacks look like sandwich boards or baby bibs. To me, they just look silly. And don’t get me started on the frothy 100% lace albs.

 

[Sr_Sally]

I vote Gothic. The roman fiddlebacks look like sandwich boards or baby bibs. To me, they just look silly. And don’t get me started on the frothy 100% lace albs.

I don’t mind the lace albs, but agree completely on the sandwhich board look of fiddlebacks.

Now a polyester gothic–especially the ordinary times one–always remind me of a hated tablecloth from my youth. Ha! But the style that is squarer (is that a word?) with almost sleeves I think is the best. Is that called conical?

 

[lizaanne]

There are some lovely examples here: paxhouse.com/vestments.html

I prefer the Gothic myself.

~Liza

 

[bilop]

Ever seen a Priest sweat in a Gothic chasuble during a long Mass?

The fiddleback is much more Priest friendly

God Bless

 

[Sure]

Ever seen a Priest sweat in a Gothic chasuble during a long Mass?

The fiddleback is much more Priest friendly

God Bless

That’s a good point. Perhaps they could make the fiddlebacks less stiff, that way they wouldn’t look so much like sandwich boards, but would still be cooler.

 

[Deo_Volente]

Grace & Peace!

To my understanding, the sweat issue is the thing. Fiddlebacks are more properly a Roman development (and are relatively recent) because of the Mediterranean climate, but the gothic style persisted in northern Europe and England because it was warmer.

I could be entirely wrong, but it makes sense!

Under the Mercy,
Mark

Deo Gratias!

 

[lizaanne]

I would love to make a Gothic chasuble for a gift - does anyone of any resources for patterns?

~Liza

 

[Pope_Noah_I]

I vote Gothic. The roman fiddlebacks look like sandwich boards or baby bibs. To me, they just look silly. And don’t get me started on the frothy 100% lace albs.

What’s wrong with lace albs?

 

[lak611]

I’ve seen some websites that sell chasubles that are called “semi-Gothic”. What does that mean? BTW, I prefer Gothic, rather than Roman chasubles.

 

[Sure]

What’s wrong with lace albs?

I am talking about the albs and surplices that are all or mostly lace. I have no problem with some lace trim, etc.

Let’s just say, the all lace ones look “foppish.” It’s like they ought to be worn with a powdered wig and face, perhaps with an added beauty mark, and accompanied by dramatic and sweeping
hand gestures.

Here are some comments on lace from the 1910 Catholic Encyclopedia…apparently, the authors were not big fans of lost of lace either.

Alb-
The use of lace, though permitted, ought never to lose the character of a pure decoration. Albs, with lace reaching above the knees, are not, strictly speaking, en règle, though there is a special decree of 16 June, 1893, tolerating albs with lace below the cincture for canons at Mass, on solemn feast days.

Lace-
Albs and cottas should have the major part of linen; lace, to be correct, should be only twelve inches deep, as an alb flounce, and there should be no frill of lace at the neck.

Rochet-
To make the vestment entirely of tulle or lace is inconvenient, as is the inordinate use of plaits; in both cases, the vestment becomes too effeminate.

 

[CathMass]

I prefer fiddleback vestments with holy images on them. I like lace albs to go with them.