Grammar, Logic and St Thomas

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On Thursday the 28th of Jan, the Memorial of St. Thomas Aquinas, Fr Mitch Pacwa preached a very intriguing homily on EWTN. He said that Grammar and Logic are interrelated and St Thomas realized this. I am hoping some of you out there heard the homily and might steer me to some reading materials so I can study up on this. I am in the Army and I know that the ability to write things clearly is an indicator of how clearly one thinks. I have a dear colleague whose unclear thinking is accurately reflected in her poor grammar. Is there anyone out there with some reading suggestions? Thanks in advance!
 
Hi, Memoria Press is a Christian homeschool publishing company that has a few courses on Logic and Rhetoric. The prices are reasonable, around $40 to $50 for the course materials and about $100 for the course materials plus dvd’s of the courses being taught by the instructors in a classroom. They are highschool level but should be a good starting point.

As a homeschooling mother I have used some of their Latin courses and will likely be using their logic and rhetoric courses myself. They are good, quality books in my opinion.

Hope this helps.
 
On Thursday the 28th of Jan, the Memorial of St. Thomas Aquinas, Fr Mitch Pacwa preached a very intriguing homily on EWTN. He said that Grammar and Logic are interrelated and St Thomas realized this. I am hoping some of you out there heard the homily and might steer me to some reading materials so I can study up on this. I am in the Army and I know that the ability to write things clearly is an indicator of how clearly one thinks. I have a dear colleague whose unclear thinking is accurately reflected in her poor grammar. Is there anyone out there with some reading suggestions? Thanks in advance!
I don’t think that’s the kind of “interrelationship” Pacwa, Aquinas, or anyone else on this question is thinking about. “Poor grammar” is often just as internally consistent as “proper grammar”, and the poverty of one’s grammar in that sense is just a measure of mismatch between one’s own rules and the conventions accepted by the community.

That’s not to say that muddled thinking is not related somehow to poor grammar; a lack of education can and does allow for undisciplined thinking as well as undisciplined speech. But for the most part, people are creatures of habit, and “bad grammar” is not so much uneven or chaotic as much is patterned and consistent, but consistently at odds with surrounding standards. That is someone who says “ain’t” is like to use it consistently and “correctly” on an internal basis. It’s just “bad grammar” because it is at odds with the socially accepted form – “isn’t”. There’s nothing intrinsically bad about “ain’t”.

The relationship I believe Pacwa is pointing to is the kind of connection made famous by Noam Chomsky in linguistic grammar, and more recently in the area of moral grammar as related to innate logic sense by Marc Hauser of Harvard – “grammar” as a module of the brain, coalescing basic innate rules in a way similar to a human’s innate sense of propositional logic.

Chomsky and Hauser approach “grammar modules” in materialist terms, but it’s not hard to credit Aquinas with detecting the basic proclivity humans have toward certain linguistic constructs (subject/object linguistic relationships) as a parallel with humans’ innate logical “grammar”.

In dealing with folks who have bad grammar, it’s true that bad grammar may indicate poor education and therefore a suboptimal skillset in thinking clearly and logically, but I would caution against making such conclusions. I’ve known many sharp engineers and developers with terrible grammar (and spelling!) who had formidable minds even so.

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I don’t think that’s the kind of “interrelationship” Pacwa, Aquinas, or anyone else on this question is thinking about. “Poor grammar” is often just as internally consistent as “proper grammar”, and the poverty of one’s grammar in that sense is just a measure of mismatch between one’s own rules and the conventions accepted by the community.

That’s not to say that muddled thinking is not related somehow to poor grammar; a lack of education can and does allow for undisciplined thinking as well as undisciplined speech. But for the most part, people are creatures of habit, and “bad grammar” is not so much uneven or chaotic as much is patterned and consistent, but consistently at odds with surrounding standards. That is someone who says “ain’t” is like to use it consistently and “correctly” on an internal basis. It’s just “bad grammar” because it is at odds with the socially accepted form – “isn’t”. There’s nothing intrinsically bad about “ain’t”.

The relationship I believe Pacwa is pointing to is the kind of connection made famous by Noam Chomsky in linguistic grammar, and more recently in the area of moral grammar as related to innate logic sense by Marc Hauser of Harvard – “grammar” as a module of the brain, coalescing basic innate rules in a way similar to a human’s innate sense of propositional logic.

Chomsky and Hauser approach “grammar modules” in materialist terms, but it’s not hard to credit Aquinas with detecting the basic proclivity humans have toward certain linguistic constructs (subject/object linguistic relationships) as a parallel with humans’ innate logical “grammar”.

In dealing with folks who have bad grammar, it’s true that bad grammar may indicate poor education and therefore a suboptimal skillset in thinking clearly and logically, but I would caution against making such conclusions. I’ve known many sharp engineers and developers with terrible grammar (and spelling!) who had formidable minds even so.

-TS
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On Thursday the 28th of Jan, the Memorial of St. Thomas Aquinas, Fr Mitch Pacwa preached a very intriguing homily on EWTN. He said that Grammar and Logic are interrelated and St Thomas realized this. I am hoping some of you out there heard the homily and might steer me to some reading materials so I can study up on this. I am in the Army and I know that the ability to write things clearly is an indicator of how clearly one thinks. I have a dear colleague whose unclear thinking is accurately reflected in her poor grammar. Is there anyone out there with some reading suggestions? Thanks in advance!
Touchstone answered this question very well.
I’ll add also, that from what I’m gathering from your comment, its seems to be presupposed that bad grammar is a consequence, product or is an indicator of a unclear thinking mind. This is not necessarily true, as it is not true in all cases.
There are a lot of unsettled, unclear-thinking, restless minds who write with extraordinarily good grammar or that of a scholastic standard. Take the likes of all those perverted modern philosophers, psychoanalysts and even in the Church, the liberal (heretic) theologians. Some of the most learned literary figures had wonderful grammar but the most disastrous and fallacious ideas.
Literary grammar, is another ideological construct with set rules and principles, that as a system uses the (name removed by moderator)ut and arrangement of words and characters to convey meaning. Logic is the same, except that as a set styled system it only expects to output a logical answer.
I suppose there is more to it, but I’ll leave that to the capable hands of Touchstone.

I’ve found personally, that it is not grammar that will make your mind more clear thinking though it helps, but it is the learning of critical analysis that will make the mind sharper as its sole aim is not to learn the set rules and principles that govern the proper formation and codification of ideas, but rather the pursuit of the complexity or depth of the idea that makes the mind sharper. One way to think of it is to see logic and grammar as merely the cup, vessel or container. Your grammar may be perfect almost like a gold chalice, though your ideas may be elementary like tap water. Or the opposite may be true. Your grammar may be as poor as an earthen-ware bowl, though your ideas may be as pleasing as fine wine, so to speak. In any case, it is not the vessel that is the gem, but the content, the ideas. Now this you will not get directly from grammar or logic - they merely serve to hold them. But it is from what I’ve learn’t to understand it as, being “critical thinking” or “critical analysis” in which the mind is literally made sharper. However, one must be weary of the modern theories that pervade much of the critical thinking world, as it is immersed in most criticisms which would rate as apostasies and heresies for us Catholics (i.e. feminism, Marxism, liberalism, modernism and the like).
What is critical analysis/thinking as I’ve adopted it (which might be different to the definition or understanding of the mainstream academic) is the system of questioning, very much like the Socratic method, in which one seeks to understand “the why”, like motivations or intentions as advancement upon already knowing the “what, how, when where”, in a way that refines to an impeccable point one’s understanding of a subject, idea or concept. Literally, asking why, why, and why; to the point where through evaluations and extrapolations, you are left with less error and doubt in your understanding and more clarity and truth to behold. This is because truth is not corrodible, therefore, the more you question (correctly) the more false hoods are bound to fall away. Kind of like cutting off dirt impurities from a diamond, or cleaning the glass surface of a dirty window.
What you must have is an understanding of set truths and principles, that are grounded in absolute truth (be it the Teachings of the Church), with this you would be able to study any modern subject without fear of contamination as you will compare and judge it back with your held Truths (they being theological) and you’ll be able to identity, discern and distinguish what is right, what is wrong, and deal with them appropriately. Being reject the bad and collect the good. If you don’t have a set of true beliefs or principles or ideas, then you will be “ravaged” and “raped” by so many false ideologies and beliefs out there which snares millions and millions of Catholics, such as relativism and indifferentism. That is why there are Catholics who believe that Christ isn’t present in the Eucharist, that abortion is not a sin, that homosexual relations is permissible. It’s because they were not critical of these ideas, maybe because they forgotten the truth, or they ignored and denied the set truths or likely because they never really learn’t or understood it in the first place. Or perhaps, they declined some of God’s holy inspirations and graces altogether.

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I do apologize for the length of this post. One of my pitfalls is that I’m not as concise as I’d like to be when writing. Anyway, to bring my point to an end, logic and grammar help to make one’s expression clear, but not necessarily the mind, for the mind may be a mess, but one’s words may be as eloquent as Pulitzer poet. Nonetheless, if you have a clear mind - which means a mind that can think rationally and holds the teachings of Christ as true, then learning to improve yourself in grammar and logic would be extremely recommended. Do go ahead, to make that vessel of thought as prized as the King’s chalice. At the same time, don’t neglect to refine your thinking, the depth of your thoughts, to make it as invaluable as liquid gold. Btw, in many ways meditation and contemplation does this more perfectly for the mind than study.

Learning to broaden your vocabulary won’t do any harm either 😃
Above all pray for wisdom and humility from Our Blessed Mother, who is the tabernacle of God. God being wisdom incarnate, and always thank God, Heaven and the Queen of Heaven for the gifts of memory, wisdom and understanding that you receive, because like modern day students we may be tempted or inclined to think that our cleverness comes from us - its natural due to our fallen nature. But really, as I’ve personally come to learn, it was all from the hands of God, even when I was away from Him, that his good gifts dwelt with me, as the sun still would shine for both the sinners and the just. In the end, all these gifts we receive for the glory of God, in honour of the Blessed Virgin and Holy Mother the Church, and the salvation of souls.
God bless!
 
Dumb Ox Books has Aquinas’ Commentary on Aristotle’s Posterior Analytics, which is one of Aristotle’s logical treatises. If you can read Latin, you can find it here and here.
 
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