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lil_flower_luv
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I like that quote, as well.
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Holly3278
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Thanks. I think it is a very accurate quote.I like that quote, as well.
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Abenadar
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The ends do, in my opinion, justify the means. There is no sin involved. There is no scandal (albeit a hard and shocking reality) and therefore no sin. If one isn’t sinning, the ends can, and do, justify the means. On the other hand, going out and shooting an abortionist, such as Tiller, does not justify the end because one is committing a grave sin to prevent abortions.
The images of aborted babies may shock people, (not just children), since “abortion” is a white-washed thing, simply a term, that people don’t know much about and don’t want to. Abortionists and the government and the anti-life people want to keep it that way but I believe it’s important that people realize what they’re doing. The Lord said “forgive them for they know not what they do”, and in the case of abortion, where the graphic truth is censored from public view, it is really true. Most people don’t realize that abortion is truly murder. No, that baby wasn’t a “blob of cells”, see, there’s the dismembered arm, the empty skull with the hole in it, the bath of blood. If people see what abortion is they can’t not know what it is that they are supporting.
I don’t advocate 5-year-olds being shown graphic pictures deliberately in school, and I’m not all for my kindergarteners having sex education either, however, a time will come when a child will have to learn of certain things, whether witnessed by accident, or taught by a parent etc.
I’d prefer my sons to accidentally see graphic pictures of abortion than graphic pornography. In seeing images of abortion one can understand the evil. Looking at pornography a child or adolescent doesn’t see the evil, because the evil is made to seem good and attractive. My first exposure to pornography was when I was 4, and it weakened my innocence at an age when I didn’t know it was evil. My first exposure to graphic images of abortion strengthened my convictions about it.
The images of aborted babies may shock people, (not just children), since “abortion” is a white-washed thing, simply a term, that people don’t know much about and don’t want to. Abortionists and the government and the anti-life people want to keep it that way but I believe it’s important that people realize what they’re doing. The Lord said “forgive them for they know not what they do”, and in the case of abortion, where the graphic truth is censored from public view, it is really true. Most people don’t realize that abortion is truly murder. No, that baby wasn’t a “blob of cells”, see, there’s the dismembered arm, the empty skull with the hole in it, the bath of blood. If people see what abortion is they can’t not know what it is that they are supporting.
I don’t advocate 5-year-olds being shown graphic pictures deliberately in school, and I’m not all for my kindergarteners having sex education either, however, a time will come when a child will have to learn of certain things, whether witnessed by accident, or taught by a parent etc.
I’d prefer my sons to accidentally see graphic pictures of abortion than graphic pornography. In seeing images of abortion one can understand the evil. Looking at pornography a child or adolescent doesn’t see the evil, because the evil is made to seem good and attractive. My first exposure to pornography was when I was 4, and it weakened my innocence at an age when I didn’t know it was evil. My first exposure to graphic images of abortion strengthened my convictions about it.
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Drawmack
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Okay, so using inflammatory terminology is okay (you’ve done it in this post so I’m assuming you think it’s okay), publicly displaying inflammatory pictures is okay, but when someone becomes inflamed and takes drastic action that is somehow not a result of the inflammatory pictures and words?The ends do, in my opinion, justify the means. There is no sin involved. There is no scandal (albeit a hard and shocking reality) and therefore no sin. If one isn’t sinning, the ends can, and do, justify the means. On the other hand, going out and shooting an abortionist, such as Tiller, does not justify the end because one is committing a grave sin to prevent abortions.
The images of aborted babies may shock people, (not just children), since “abortion” is a white-washed thing, simply a term, that people don’t know much about and don’t want to. Abortionists and the government and the anti-life people want to keep it that way but I believe it’s important that people realize what they’re doing. The Lord said “forgive them for they know not what they do”, and in the case of abortion, where the graphic truth is censored from public view, it is really true. Most people don’t realize that abortion is truly murder. No, that baby wasn’t a “blob of cells”, see, there’s the dismembered arm, the empty skull with the hole in it, the bath of blood. If people see what abortion is they can’t not know what it is that they are supporting.
I don’t advocate 5-year-olds being shown graphic pictures deliberately in school, and I’m not all for my kindergarteners having sex education either, however, a time will come when a child will have to learn of certain things, whether witnessed by accident, or taught by a parent etc.
I’d prefer my sons to accidentally see graphic pictures of abortion than graphic pornography. In seeing images of abortion one can understand the evil. Looking at pornography a child or adolescent doesn’t see the evil, because the evil is made to seem good and attractive. My first exposure to pornography was when I was 4, and it weakened my innocence at an age when I didn’t know it was evil. My first exposure to graphic images of abortion strengthened my convictions about it.
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pnewton
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This presents a contradiction. How can one object to their children being force-fed sex education, even graphically, by a public school system and then deem they have the right by virtue of free speech to force-feed abortion images onto children of all that drive by? At least the public system is open to change through the electorate.I don’t advocate 5-year-olds being shown graphic pictures deliberately in school, and I’m not all for my kindergarteners having sex education either, however, a time will come when a child will have to learn of certain things, whether witnessed by accident, or taught by a parent etc.
Should gays also have the freedom to present their views as graphically as they can to all you pass by, including children?
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Abenadar
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No contradiction. Read what I wrote. Also, being force-fed in school for one hour is a lot different than driving by something for two seconds. You don’t see prostitutes teaching their trade in school, but unfortunately you may see them on the streets. All I said was that I don’t think kids should be forced to see that in school, but on the other hand why should we hide abortion away and white-wash it? Children will need to grow up some time, and it’s better to be open and honest about the truth of the matter. The truth is that abortion is ugly.This presents a contradiction. How can one object to their children being force-fed sex education, even graphically, by a public school system and then deem they have the right by virtue of free speech to force-feed abortion images onto children of all that drive by?
Also, are you saying that people DO NOT have the right to have images of aborted babies on posters out on the street?!?!?!
Two words: Indecent exposure. If they’re breaking the law…book 'em.Should gays also have the freedom to present their views as graphically as they can to all you pass by, including children?
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Drawmack
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Are you saying that the legal right to do something implies the moral right to do it?Also, are you saying that people DO NOT have the right to have images of aborted babies on posters out on the street?!?!?!
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Walkingeagles
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Drive your kids to school, watch what they see and keep them from the real world and remember that you are the ones who raised a bunch of whimps.
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lil_flower_luv
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Yes, and we all know, we can’t shield children from everything. But don’t you think it’s better to wait a while before you explain something as horrible as abortion to a kid?Drive your kids to school, watch what they see and keep them from the real world and remember that you are the ones who raised a bunch of whimps.
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Drawmack
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Better yet, show you child graphic pictures of murder and rape at the age of three and then claim you don’t know what went wrong when they are drug using criminals.Drive your kids to school, watch what they see and keep them from the real world and remember that you are the ones who raised a bunch of whimps.
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ahollars
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Thank you.Allied soldiers, after liberating one of the death camps where people were gassed, were so outraged that they forced citizens of a nearby town to walk through the camp to see what they had tolerated. Perhaps it might have been better if the townspeople had been required to view graphic photos of the camp’s daily operations before the end of the war.
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ahollars
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No I do not believe it is horrible. I let my toddlers, ages 2 and 3 at the time, see the infamous graphic images on the March in Washington one January. Children need to be told that this is real, and that there are cowardly, selfish, ravenous idiots out there that actually think it is okay.Yes, and we all know, we can’t shield children from everything. But don’t you think it’s better to wait a while before you explain something as horrible as abortion to a kid?
No, I would not show a rape to my kids. Rape is illegal, while abortion is not.Better yet, show you child graphic pictures of murder and rape at the age of three and then claim you don’t know what went wrong when they are drug using criminals.
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Walkingeagles
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I don’t think you have to show kids everything, they will see things themselves in time, I just think we shouldn’t hide things like that from them.
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Drawmack
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Okay then, graphic video tape of water boarding and graphic battle field scenes.No, I would not show a rape to my kids. Rape is illegal, while abortion is not.
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Drawmack
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I do not think that things like that should be displayed where children can see them before they reach the appropriate age to see such things. It falls in line with publicly displaying R rated movies where children could see them.I don’t think you have to show kids everything, they will see things themselves in time, I just think we shouldn’t hide things like that from them.
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ahollars
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My kids have seen battlefield scenes. My wife and I are both veterans, as are all of our parents and grandfathers.Okay then, graphic video tape of water boarding and graphic battle field scenes.
Waterboarding isn’t anywhere near the level of anything discussed here, despite what some people would have us believe, and even if I find a video of it, I doubt my kids would be traumatized by it, nor would it shake their faith or conscience if I were there to explain what was happening.
My wife and children are black. Lessons in American History have not traumatized them, and I’m pretty sure you kids could handle that as well.
Children are not porcelain. They are resilient. They will learn well from you if you start at a young age. I think it’s better that way, rather than waiting until they are old enough to have had some hardening of the heart.
FTR, I, too, saw abortion pictures before I was 8 years old, including the “Silent Scream” video, though I don’t remember exactly when. My resolve to this day is strong because of it.
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pnewton
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My opinion is that such a thing should not be allowed. Local agencies have the right to determine their own standards of decency. Regretful, when good Catholics and solid anti-abortion people like myself attempt to have people comply with local code on such things, we will be slandered as supporting abortion just for protecting our children.Also, are you saying that people DO NOT have the right to have images of aborted babies on posters out on the street?!?!?!
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lil_flower_luv
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And your point is…?No, I would not show a rape to my kids. Rape is illegal, while abortion is not.
They are both horrible acts…both=bad. Neither should be shown to young, impressionable children.
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lil_flower_luv
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This is all true. But 2 and 3? One of the best things to possess as a child is innocence. That’s why there are movie ratings. Because kids can be scarred by seeing disturbing things. I’m right there with you that abortion is murder. But innocent children can grow up alittle before they have to be shown it. Just like they wait to go through puberty, there will come a time when they must see what their nation is made of.No I do not believe it is horrible. I let my toddlers, ages 2 and 3 at the time, see the infamous graphic images on the March in Washington one January. Children need to be told that this is real, and that there are cowardly, selfish, ravenous idiots out there that actually think it is okay.
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Drawmack
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I saw child abuse from birth until I was 12 and my views on many things were distorted and I required much therapy because of it.My kids have seen battlefield scenes. My wife and I are both veterans, as are all of our parents and grandfathers.
Waterboarding isn’t anywhere near the level of anything discussed here, despite what some people would have us believe, and even if I find a video of it, I doubt my kids would be traumatized by it, nor would it shake their faith or conscience if I were there to explain what was happening.
My wife and children are black. Lessons in American History have not traumatized them, and I’m pretty sure you kids could handle that as well.
Children are not porcelain. They are resilient. They will learn well from you if you start at a young age. I think it’s better that way, rather than waiting until they are old enough to have had some hardening of the heart.
FTR, I, too, saw abortion pictures before I was 8 years old, including the “Silent Scream” video, though I don’t remember exactly when. My resolve to this day is strong because of it.
What I am saying is that each child is different and each parent should be the one making decisions about when their children see these things. If you would show these pictures to your young child then that is your right and I will fight to the death defending your right to raise your children any way you see fit. I’m only asking for the same thing in return.
If you’re going to have graphic depictions of abortion on a public street you should put up a sign warning people about it before the pictures are actually visible so that those who wish to avoid the protest can.
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