Greek Melkite Catholic Church

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This is a shout out to all the Greek Melkites here… My dad is a Greek Melkite Catholic and my mom is a Quaker…

I was raised in the latin rite church… My dad wants me to start coming to his parish instead of my usual latin parish…

What’s the difference between the Western Church and the Greek Melkite Church?
 
This is a shout out to all the Greek Melkites here… My dad is a Greek Melkite Catholic and my mom is a Quaker…

I was raised in the latin rite church… My dad wants me to start coming to his parish instead of my usual latin parish…

What’s the difference between the Western Church and the Greek Melkite Church?
Are the Greek melkites in communion with Rome?

The liturgy, for one. If they are not in communion with Rome, I think you cannot receive communion there.
 
Are the Greek melkites in communion with Rome?

The liturgy, for one. If they are not in communion with Rome, I think you cannot receive communion there.
They are. The Orthodox counterpart is the Antiochian Orthodox Church.
 
This is a shout out to all the Greek Melkites here… My dad is a Greek Melkite Catholic and my mom is a Quaker…

I was raised in the latin rite church… My dad wants me to start coming to his parish instead of my usual latin parish…

What’s the difference between the Western Church and the Greek Melkite Church?
The difference is mostly in the nature of the rituals, liturgical texts, and in the theology used to support the dogmatic beliefs.

If your dad was a Melkite before you were born, then so are you. It’s the proper place you SHOULD be. Likewise, it’s most likely that, if he switched prior to your being 14, you are also canonically Melkite.

And if you’re Canonically Melkite, your children most likely will be as well.

Rome really does not want to have people leaving the Eastern Rite Churches for the Roman Church… at least not anymore.
 
I feel awkward at a Greek Melkite Church… The parish my dad goes to doesn’t do english masses and it’s just weird…

I prefer the latin church which i was raised in because originally there was no local Melkite parish… When one came to our city my dad went and i stayed at the latin parish…
I’m not racist or anything but the entire parish is syrian and Arab including my Dad…

My mom on the other hand is an Irish quaker… I look like my mom… I stick out like a white pastry in that church…

It may be the church of my father but i just don’t fit in… I’m not syrian or an Arab…
 
I feel awkward at a Greek Melkite Church… The parish my dad goes to doesn’t do english masses and it’s just weird…

I prefer the latin church which i was raised in because originally there was no local Melkite parish… When one came to our city my dad went and i stayed at the latin parish…
I’m not racist or anything but the entire parish is syrian and Arab including my Dad…

My mom on the other hand is an Irish quaker… I look like my mom… I stick out like a white pastry in that church…

It may be the church of my father but i just don’t fit in… I’m not syrian or an Arab…
Canon law says we are called to practice the rite of our church of canonical enrollment. Since your dad is apparently a cradle Melkite, so then are you.

It doesn’t make a whole lot of difference unless and until you either go to get married (you HAVE to have a priest do it; a deacon can’t), enter a religious community (you’ll need Rome’s permission to do so for a non-byzantine one), or enter the seminary (you can’t be a Roman deacon or priest unless you switch enrollments to the Roman or Ethiopian churches).

You might see if there is another Byzantine Rite parish in the area with English liturgy. Ukrainian, Romanian, or “Byzantine Catholic” (Ruthenian). They are the same Rite, but separate hierarchies.

If there is such a parish, offer to go to the English liturgy with him there.

But, in general, don’t worry about sticking out - most byzatine rite parishes of any of the churches tend to be pretty warm and welcoming once they realize you belong there.

Oh, and as a Melkite, even one in a Roman parish, you’re expected under the canons to obey the Melkite fasts… Advent is longer, by a couple weeks, and Lent starts on Monday, not Wednesday… and “no meat on friday” is likely not allowed exemption for other penitential practices.
 
Can’t I just switch my membership to a latin church? I’d rather not be Greek Melkite 😦
 
Can’t I just switch my membership to a latin church? I’d rather not be Greek Melkite 😦
In theory, yes. In practice, probably not unless you enter a religious community or a seminary.

Rome has made it clear it’s a “last resort” kind of thing.
 
Great… Gives me more motivation to join my mom and become a quaker…
 
Write a letter to the Latin Bishop with your reasons for transfer. The bishop should contact the Melkite Eparch. If they both agree you will receive a form to have witnessed for transfer. A transfer can occur for spiritual benefit and for harmony in families.
 
Can’t I just switch my membership to a latin church? I’d rather not be Greek Melkite 😦
There is no need for you to make any change. 🙂 You can freely remain active in any Latin Church, AKA Roman, parish… or any EC or OC Catholic parish for that matter. The only time your status as canonically Melkite would be of any issue would be if you want to be married and/or ordained. (A UGCC Catholic who often served with us, Russian Greek Catholics, as a deacon, was ordained as a Dominican here a year and a half ago.)
I feel awkward at a Greek Melkite Church… The parish my dad goes to doesn’t do english masses and it’s just weird…

I prefer the latin church which i was raised in because originally there was no local Melkite parish… When one came to our city my dad went and i stayed at the latin parish…
I’m not racist or anything but the entire parish is syrian and Arab including my Dad…
Maybe your dad is just trying to connect with you in the way he knows best. 🙂 Of course you feel out of place in a tradition which is so new and unfamiliar to you, and with services in a language you don’t understand. Maybe you can find a way to meet him “in the middle”. Perhaps the deacon or one of the clergy wives or another catechist in the Melkite parish could give you some instruction to help you become more familiar with the liturgy. Maybe someone here knows a good CD of the Liturgy in English. The two Melkite parishes I have gone to the services were a combination of English and something else which I assume was Arabic. Because I’m so familiar with the Divine Liturgy I was able to follow what was going on. This is true when I’m sometimes in an Orthodox Church here where the service is 80%+ in Greek. I’ve had a much harder time in the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite knowing where the priest was in the Mass, even though I know the Roman Rite Ordinary Form in depth.

If you could become more familiar with what is going on in the Melkite liturgy then maybe you could go there for our Major Feasts, for example, and share that much with your father and this important part of your own heritage. Maybe there are some babas/yiayias whatever they are called in the Arabic family, who could take you under their wing. I’m one of the only females posting here and a baba myself, so that makes sense to me. 🙂

As it happens I also went to Quaker boarding School, college and grad school, many decades ago. While I am profoundly grateful for the formation I received in that faith community during all those years, now when I am in even a deeply covered Meeting for worship I have found myself joyfully thinking “I am SO glad I’m Catholic!” That’s another whole topic…
 
If you do go through with a transfer you should speak with your Latin Church priest. You will have to write letters to your bishops. One to the Latin bishop asking him to receive you and one to your Melkite bishop to release you. Both must agree for the transfer to occur. If either one says no then there will be no transfer.

When you write your letter make sure you only talk about how you are drawn to the Latin Church and its traditions and discipline. If you include any other issues, such as the one you are having with your father and the Melkite priests (which you have multiple posts on in other places) then your transfer will most likely be denied.
 
There’s no reason why you couldn’t go to both Melkite and Latin parishes.

The Irish themselves were not of the Latin Rite originally, but of the “Celtic Rite” and their traditions were very much influenced by that of Eastern Christianity, especially via St John Cassian and the Egyptian monastics (the Irish, to this day, still have devotion to the “Seven Coptic Monks” buried in Ireland).

The Irish Celtic tradition, for example, did prostrations as in the East. In fact, I believe the Irish Celts would have felt more at home in a Melkite Church than in the Roman Church that later came to dominate there.

Your attendance at a Melkite Church where you wouldn’t understand the language wouldn’t be all that much different from attending a Latin Mass, but I digress. By paying tribute to the heritage of both of your parents, you would also be enriching yourself spiritually.

In addition, there is much in the Melkite Byzantine-Catholic spirituality that would inspire Quakers (I had two Quaker friends who came with me to my EC Church and they were so taken by it all that they later converted).

Good luck.

Alex
 
Idk things have gotten a little better… I got the Melkite Bishop (who was born in America 👍) to get everything to calm down. There’s another Melkite parish that’s a little more friendlier a couple cities over that is 45 minutes away… I’ve convinced my Father to let me go there…

And he’s stopped the marriage diatribe; but he’s pretty depressed I won’t be giving him a grandson…

Can Eastern Catholics go to that Courage group?
 
Idk things have gotten a little better… I got the Melkite Bishop (who was born in America 👍) to get everything to calm down. There’s another Melkite parish that’s a little more friendlier a couple cities over that is 45 minutes away… I’ve convinced my Father to let me go there…

And he’s stopped the marriage diatribe; but he’s pretty depressed I won’t be giving him a grandson…

Can Eastern Catholics go to that Courage group?
What good news. I’m glad you and your father are finding ways to meet half way. 👍
Which Bishop is this?
 
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