Does it occur to anybody, or concern them, that the magisterium is going to be biased?
I do think it is appropriate to say that my post is WAY MORE in line with the truth. Of course you will totally disagree. I’ve learned that when dealing with the extreme spiritually blind it is best to say that we will have to settle this at our resurrection.
I started to reply to your post. I then concluded that you are so far out of the truth that it would be meaningless. I really hope you are just kidding.God is Love. There is a Hell for those who die at enmity with God. I might, you might, any of us might - faith in the Love of God is what keeps us from trusting in our own non-existent strength & virtue: He is strong, we are not. God cannot possibly be false to us, for He is wholly faithful to His words - but we are all too easily capable of being false to Him
Man is capable of sin, and therefore, capable of finding God to be his worst nightmare - because our unrighteousness can have no communion with the Glorious Righteousness of God. Such a thing is wholly impossible - it would destroy sinners, if they encountered it, because they are utterly unclean & it is wholly pure. But God is so merciful that He does not insist that those who hate Him should be exposed to the brightness of His Glory in Heaven - he gives them Hell instead, because that is what they wanted. Nobody is in Hell without having wanted to be - it is a bolt-hole in which they hide from God. It is all they will allow God to give them.
The problem is, ISTM, that you’re remembering that God is Love, but not remembering that man is capable of wickedness, of sin. The least sin is a sin, it is sinful, which is why it is a sin - it is therefore the worst thing there could ever be. It deserves Hell. The really amazing thing is that God is so immorally, indecently, unethically patient with us sinners. It doesn’t make sense, that we sin and sin and sin, yet are not destroyed. Yet so it is. Damnation is richly deserved - nothing could be more utterly just than that those who hate God should be punished for their folly, rebellion, perversity, cruelty, wickedness. It is **good **that there is a Hell - it is an appalling evil that we should sin.
While I would certainly be the first to agree with the idea that the Magisterium are both biased and fallible, I do have to disagree with the analogy. The Magisterium are not working simply off their own assumptions, but rather off two thousand years of Catholic theology. I would not say that this necessarily makes them right, but it can help to make their decisions somewhat more informed.
Howevermuch I disagree with your exegesis, I cannot fault the overall charity of your response, and only wish that I saw its like here more often!
)It seems to me that you’re scared of hell. I’ve seen a few of your post and they almost always involve the "theory that there is no hell. In a almost panicing kind of way
Not in a million years is it a theory. Your “church” and every other “church” you can identify today is lieing to their people about being burned and tortured by the God of love just because they did not “believe” etc.
I don’t understand which bible you’re reading from. But the both the new and old testament mention hell, well the one and most likely just about every Catholic and Prostestant read does. Yeah sure i think it would be great too if there ws no hell. but the bible says it does. here are some verse from both the old and new testament which confirms your fears.
Man o man. Has it EVER occurred to you that it would be beneficial to examine the root of the word?
Do you mean the word Sheol. or the old english helle? you will find many roots of the word hell. In fact as many roots as there are laguages…just about in all cases it’s a bad place to dwell.
Your response, or lack of response, is precisely why the Bible that the Holy Spirit inspired is of greatly reduced value without an authoritative, divinely inspired interpreter. I always prefer settling the question of the authority of the Church first, before considering whether what weight her teaching has.
Well, since there is no church on this planet that is identified in Scripture, we seem to have a problem. Every identifiable church on this planet that claims authority claims authority because it’s men say so. Am I wrong?
I’ll try and correct the misunderstanding tomorrow…
Not true. Jesus identified a Church as His and called it, “My Church.” He said that He would build it upon “this rock” and that the gates of hell would not prevail against it. We may not agree on the nature of the “My Church” Jesus spoke of, but it must exist. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that there is no Church identified in a manner we could agree on. This, of course, would be improbably anachronistic anyway.
Actually there is, transliterated it is Aionios.
Or you just aren’t as eloquent to be able to reply, or you just don’t have a reply.
I should have said there is “no church on this planet identified BY NAME in Scripture”. Sorry for the confusion. I agree Christ did say…
Kellie, I post more on target Scripture on this board than about anyone. I am here to discuss God’s Word and ESPECIALLY the translation of it. As far as the large font, many have ridiculed me for having to small of a font. No one else has complained of the larger font so I have to assume it works best for the majority.
