Greg Laurie Hates religion?

[ffg]

A relationship with Jesus without religion.

That’s like following your favorite athlete.

You know who they are (or so you think), but they certainly don’t know you.

Why? Because you are not in their house, you are not at their table.

The relationship you perceive, is your side only.

It is impossible to have a relationship with Jesus, and not follow His teachings…

Which creates the relationship!

 

[LegoGE1947]

A relationship with Jesus without religion.

That’s like following your favorite athlete.

You know who they are (or so you think), but they certainly don’t know you.

Why? Because you are not in their house, you are not at their table.

The relationship you perceive, is your side only.

It is impossible to have a relationship with Jesus, and not follow His teachings…

Which creates the relationship!

You can’t have a relationship with Jesus but not have a relationship with his disciples ( his Church) That is one of his teachings.

 

[JustaServant]

Keep in mind the guy was evangelized by Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel fame. A church started by surfers in Southern California in the 60s. They were fed up with the establishment religion, and with good reason. They decided that they needed a relationship with Jesus without the trappings of religion, for better or worse.

He’s one of those “Jesus Freaks” from the 60s? I remember those guys.
I’ll repeat how one preacher summed them up.
Jesus doesn’t turn people into freaks.
He turns freaks into people.

 

[zz912]

Case in point- a very religious man named Nicodemus came to Jesus one night.He was searching for meaning in his ritual-filled life.Not only that,but he was in his day a famous religious leader.Jesus told what he had to do to go to Heaven.That’s what I want to talk about tomorrow at Harvest/Riverside and Orange County in my message,”Heart to Heart”.

I wonder if he realizes that Jesus instructed Nicodemus to perform a ritual? (baptism)

 

[zz912]

Is it at all possible that Jesus established these rituals and sacraments at the time because humanity needed them, since there was a prevalence of deep spiritual immaturity?

Maybe today, with the greater spiritual maturity of many, the deeper significance of those rituals can be established without the rituals?
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I don’t see greater spiritual maturity. It’s actually the opposite today.

 

[LaughingBoy1503]

I don’t quite see it that way. I see it as a fusion of Christianity with hippie philosophy, rather than being fed up with anything. 35 years on, those ideologist youth are now approaching retirement, and the fusion of Christianity is now with something else.

Indeed. I grew up going to Calvary Chapel and my Mother is still a Calvary Chapel Christian although she does not consider herself a protestant and considers herself a true blue Bible only Non Denominational Christian. Calvary Chapel is one of the biggest “Non Denominational” denomination.

I read in “Christianity’s dangerous idea” a book about Protestantism, that Calvary Chapel has at least one church that broke off. Calvary chapel was founded in Costa Mesa, CA and “The Vineyard” Church was founded in Anaheim, CA (neighbors to Costa Mesa) by a group that broke away from Calvary Chapel because they felt Calvary Chapel did not put enough emphasis on the gifts of The Spirit or something like that. The gifts of the spirit are a Christian teaching, but I guess, in this case, they felt that they were just not hearing enough about them. Sounds a little religious to me

 

[JHow]

P.J. O’Rourke once characterized support for population control as “Just enough of me, way too much of you.”

That is how I see the anti-religion thing: just enough of my religion, way too much of yours.