Griswold v. Connecticut

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Griswold v. Connecticut dealt with a “marital” right to privacy. the Court held that a married couple had the right, within the context of their marriage, to used contraceptives. The “marital” part was thrown out a few years later in Eisenstadt v. Baird when the court ruled that individuals had an individual right to privacy allowing the individual to purchase and use contraceptives. This, in turn, paved the way for Roe v. Wade. The point is that the right to privacy enunciated in Griswold is very different than that in Eisenstadt or in Roe. Griswold recognized the marital relationship. Eisenstadt, Roe and their progeny do not.
The problem is not in whether or not a couple, married or not, has a right to privacy and to use or not use contraceptions. The prolem with the decision is that it isn’t a constitutional right, which is what the Supreme Court is supposed to decide. Some states at that time allowed contraceptive use, some didn’t. Both groups of states were fully in line with the Constitution, since anything not covered by the Constitution is the purview of the states.
 
Griswold didn’t just happen.

It is a movement started in the 19th century and was a well-organized, targeted attack to liberalize laws on pornography, birth control(condoms, diaphragms, spermicides) and abortion. Financed by the rubber and later the spermicidal companies, bills were regularly introduced by the liberal republicans in the legislature and law cases were brought before the courts.

The first bill was introduced in 1917 to repeal the Comstock Laws and in 1936. State vs. One Package went to the courts.
From Kinsey, Crime & Consequences…
Probably the most influential supporter of the changed sex laws according to Kinsey was Morris Ernst, a founding member of the ACLU. He served as a representative under President Roosevelt after WWII, was an attorney for Margaret Sanger, attorney for Kinsey and the Kinsey Institute, attorney for SEICUS, attorney for Planned Parenthood. He had close ties and influence Superior Judges Brandeis, Breenan and Frankfurter and Judge Learned among others.(not sure if Superior of Supreme)
Roe was supposedly based on the 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th and 14th amendments.

The bad decision that started it all: Griswold at 40…

encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-133839192.html
 
Griswold didn’t just happen.

It is a movement started in the 19th century and was a well-organized, targeted attack to liberalize laws on pornography, birth control(condoms, diaphragms, spermicides) and abortion. Financed by the rubber and later the spermicidal companies, bills were regularly introduced by the liberal republicans in the legislature and law cases were brought before the courts.

The first bill was introduced in 1917 to repeal the Comstock Laws and in 1936. State vs. One Package went to the courts.

Roe was supposedly based on the 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th and 14th amendments.

The bad decision that started it all: Griswold at 40…

encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-133839192.html
Thanks for the link - it is very illuminating! 👍
 
[from the linked article]
“The idea of a generalized right to privacy floating in penumbras formed by emanations was a pure judicial invention–one designed to license the judicial usurpation of democratic legislative authority.”
This is increasingly how law is made in the U.S.–not by legislatures, but rather by the selection of supreme court justices who can be counted on to implement social policy changes. Rather than change laws through legislatures, cases are carefully selected and moved through courts to overturn existing law. Hardly what the founders intended.
 
You say “child.” It just shows the bias of people who are “pro-life” have. And yes it does trump the “murder” of a “defenseless child”. Poverty causes suffering… and you probably believe that the “child’s” (I prefer to call it a “fetus”) soul would go to heaven and not suffer. I do think we should place a higher priority on mitigating suffering than on focusing on abortion.
First, how is calling a child a child bias?

Second, have you ever heard of adoption?
 
American Life League - 43rd anniversary of Griswold - June 7th

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From site - Stewart’s Dissenting Opinion…

law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0381_0479_ZD1.html
From Stewart’s succinct and clear disssenting opinion:

Since 1879, Connecticut has had on its books a law which forbids the use of contraceptives by anyone. I think this is an uncommonly silly law. As a practical matter, the law is obviously unenforceable, except in the oblique context of the present case. As a philosophical matter, I believe the use of contraceptives in the relationship of marriage should be left to personal and private choice, based upon each individual’s moral, ethical, and religious beliefs. As a matter of social policy, I think professional counsel about methods of birth control should be available to all, so that each individual’s choice can be meaningfully made. But we are not asked in this case to say whether we think this law is unwise, or even asinine. We are asked to hold that it violates the United States Constitution. And that I cannot do.
 
The problem is not in whether or not a couple, married or not, has a right to privacy and to use or not use contraceptions. The prolem with the decision is that it isn’t a constitutional right, which is what the Supreme Court is supposed to decide. Some states at that time allowed contraceptive use, some didn’t. Both groups of states were fully in line with the Constitution, since anything not covered by the Constitution is the purview of the states.
Rich, you are totally correct. My point was not that Griswold was based on sound jurisprudence - and we know that it was not - but that the “right” to privacy had expanded to the extent that marriage was at least recognized in that horrid decision, and then totally ignored in the law.
 
People who are pro-choice do not call a “fetus” a child. Apparently only pro-lifers do that.
Whenever we wish to remove legal protection from any class of human beings, the first thing to be done is to rename them. I suppose that we might refer to the newborn as “extrauterine fetuses” and to the old and disabled as “vegetables.”
 
People who are pro-choice do not call a “fetus” a child. Apparently only pro-lifers do that.
Only people who have a superiority complex dehumanize those who are more lowly and humble than themselves. Once dehumanized, they can, from their lofty perch, declare the unborn unfit to live.
 
Only people who have a superiority complex dehumanize those who are more lowly and humble than themselves. Once dehumanized, they can, from their lofty perch, declare the unborn unfit to live.
Actually, bigotry and dehumanizing others are linked to an inferiority complex. Such attitudes are fostered by a deep-seated feeling that the bigot is inferior, and must tear down others, because he cannot rise himself.
 
fetus

Main Entry:fe·tus
Pronunciation:\ˈfē-təs
Function:noun
Etymology:Middle English, from Latin, act of bearing young, offspring; akin to Latin fetus newly delivered, fruitful — more at feminine
Date:14th century
: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth
So if you prefer the word fetus, you are still referring to a human.

Please note the Latin derivative, “act of bearing young, offspring”. It seems that someone is trying to change what "fetus"means. 😉 Hmmmm…I wonder …😉
 
Actually, bigotry and dehumanizing others are linked to an inferiority complex. Such attitudes are fostered by a deep-seated feeling that the bigot is inferior, and must tear down others, because he cannot rise himself.
I stand corrected. Those who feel inadequate themselves making others lower so as to falsely build themselves up trying to make up for their own shortcoming at the expense of others.
 
I stand corrected. Those who feel inadequate themselves making others lower so as to falsely build themselves up trying to make up for their own shortcoming at the expense of others.
Note how someone who doesn’t have a job demands we use the term “fetus” instead of child.😉
 


I wonder what Catholics think about [Griswold]. The case was specifically about privacy. Do you support that ruling? …
the issue is somewhat moot because many states, – I think all of them but I don’t have the figures at hand – have a constitutional or statutory right to privacy that is, of course, independent of the federal right.

the big issue as I see it is how the government could enforce the anti-contraceptive law. sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. allowing government agents to literally invade a married couples’ bedroom to investigate an alleged criminal use of contraceptives is repugnant beyond what I can get away with saying here.

imagine how the government would get a search warrant: a person snitches the neighbors claiming they use contraceptives, a judge issues a warrant and the police come barging in. this is insanity.

but the really scary thought is that I’m positive there would be more than a few people who would be happy to undertake that kind of intrusion.
 
The federal and state 1873 Comstock laws which did not allow pornography, contraceptive or abortion devices in the mail have never been repealed although Margaret Sanger constantly attack these laws in the Connecticut legislature and courts.

Essentially it was not only about pornography, contraception or abortion. To me it is about Christian identity. Comstock was a Christian who believed in the teachings of the Church and the secular community looked at him as a psychopath out to destroy the world through over-population.

Griswold vs. Connecticut is just an off-shoot of this. The jingles that are used such as “right to privacy”, “pro abortion equals pro women” are just clever ways to package bad policies.
 
… The jingles that are used such as “right to privacy”, "…
given the near universal right to privacy as a matter of law in the United States, its more than a jingle.

serious and productive debate on how to limit the excess of the privacy right has got to start with acknowledging that privacy is the law of the land.
 
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