Grounds for Marriage Annulment in the Catholic Church

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JulianN said:
I can see that he may not have felt able to tell you what should or could happen. So much of that depends on the couple. For example, I believe wholeheartedly that my marriage is valid —but if my spouse ever hit me or cheated on me we would certainly never live together again.

But I also wouldn’t see any grounds for nullity based on that.
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Even after remorse? That is against the pastoral guidance of the Church.

And though it may not be your fault, you may provoke her to do so.
 
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I didn’t say I wouldn’t forgive, but trust would be completely broken. Also, I lived with the “but you provoked me!” line for years. I’m not going there again.

And since I’m straight, my spouse would be a him. 😉
 
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This is so outrageous. Sometimes filing a lawsuit is necessary for the victim or for society at large. Victims are damaged all the time. People are allowed to exercise their legal rights. In fact I’d argue that if people exercised those rights more often the world would be better since more people would be on their toes
 
We are called to forgive but we are not called to live with an abuser, even if the abuser is remorseful, odds are they’ll abuse again unless they get psychological help
 
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You said “sometimes”.

The key of Paul’s instruction in “between believers”
 
So what? The church says sometimes it’s necessary to protect yourself
 
Sometimes… does not mean always or required.
 
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In my state, you have to file for divorce to get child support. So it’s more like ‘often’ than ‘sometimes.’
 
From what I interpret the lord wants us to bring lawsuits to the church before corrupt governments. But I don’t believe The American legal system is corrupt
 
So when a spouse wants the child support due to them, but are not receiving, do they go to the State without first asking the Church to admonish?

And if they go to the Church and are still refused, does the Church excommunicate?
 
The Church has zero control over child support—and a recalcitrant spouse won’t care about any admonishment.

And no, the Church doesn’t excommunicate for failure to support your children.
 
“Control” is a copout word thrown by people in the Church who do not like the notion of admonishment.

I already showed you the pertinent passage regarding this issue.

1 Timothy 5

Command this, so that they may be without reproach. If any one does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his own family, he has disowned the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
 
The Church has a duty to excommunicated those who refuse to keep the commands of the Church.

It’s a lost practice, on account of fear
 
My ex was anti-Catholic. (Although quick to consult a priest to find out how to block an annulment while merrily remarrying himself)
No admonishment was going to make him pay child support—he wanted (his words) to bankrupt me.

He’s a “believer ,” when it’s convenient.
 
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