Grounds for Marriage Annulment in the Catholic Church

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How would I know my parents relationship? We happened to live in the same house, and I am very close to them both
 
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i cannot believe anyone in this day and age is defending anger that leads to those kinds of outburst.

just because someone else did it, that doesn’t mean its right.

you know the old adage, Jump off a cliff because everyone else does
 
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Roseeurekacross said:
exactly and what would you really know about your parents relationship if its fraught with incidents of anger lose that amounts to arm grabbing and object throwing

what would you know about how each one of them felt about that.
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Fraught? Ok, i see you are taking this to places i have not suggested at all.

I am done talking about it because you are not discussing respectfully.
 
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Glad my mother didnt leave my father, or visa versa. Both have done as much.
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we are reading what you are writing

and my mission now is not really to try to explain the potential wrongness of angry outbursts to you.

its for anyone on this thread who is reading saying oh well whats a little arm grabbing

whats a little object throwing,

Well they are great big red flags.
 
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What does fraught mean? Definitely far from what I have been talking about.
 
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Glad my mother didnt leave my father, or visa versa. Both have done as much.
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we are reading what you are writing

and my mission now is not really to try to explain the wrongness of angry outbursts to you.

its for anyone on this thread who is reading saying on well whats a little arm grabbing

whats a little object throwing,

Well they are great big red flags.
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I have been following this conversation and feel you both would benefit from taking a break and slowing down.
 
Wannano said:
I have been following this conversation and feel you both would benefit from taking a break and slowing down.
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I will never defend a persons right to arm grabbing and object throwing in a relationship.

its wrong, it leads to escalation of violence,

the bottom line is big red flag, don’t put up with it, even once.

and don’t ever take any responsibility for it if you are on the receiving end.
 
Roseeurekacross said:
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Wannano:
I have been following this conversation and feel you both would benefit from taking a break and slowing down.
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I will never defend a persons right to arm grabbing and object throwing in a relationship.

its wrong, it leads to escalation of violence,

the bottom line is big red flag, don’t put up with it, even once.

and don’t ever take any responsibility for it if you are on the receiving end.
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You have brought up some valuable points but there is also context to consider. I sense emotion in this discussion has escalated to a point where neither one is being heard.
 
yes the context is

all physical violence is wrong. there is no other context.

we are not in the 1950s.

we do not condone any sort of physical violence be it to a person or a wall.
 
Roseeurekacross said:
yes the context is

all physical violence is wrong. there is no other context.

we are not in the 1950s.

we do not condone any sort of physical violence be it to a person or a wall.
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No argument that physical violence is wrong. By context I mean the situation in which the anger is being displayed.
 
we could start another thread about this. rather then going off topic 🙂 because it is a very good question
 
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Roseeurekacross said:
we could start another thread about this. rather then going off topic 🙂 because it is a very good question
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The topic is about grounds for annulment. Previous conversation here has provided the fact that civil divorce must precede the inquiry into an annulment. Maybe we are not too off topic! :roll_eyes:
 
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i feel we have strayed into whats acceptable or not in a marriage and thats entirely my fault for saying

hey wait a minute…

back to topic.

the grounds for annulment are laid out in the concrete validity of marriage at the time of the marriage, not what happens during the marriage.

so what a person seeks a divorce for is not necessarily grounds for annulment.
 
Yes it is like an inquisition. That was my experience. Men who had NEVER married before and so many questions including all about your sex life when I petitioned and starting with your childhood…and blah blah blah…
 
I’ve actually found that really helpful looking back over my life, my values ,my upbringing ,seeing cycles I wasnt so aware of etc .I’m a private person but in my mind supplying all the possible details about my life that have a bearing doesn’t and didn’t faze me as I felt it was for the greater good no matter what the outcome.
 
Can this thread be closed already? It’s just OP saying inflammatory stuff about the legal system, the tribunals, and now it’s about how
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Doesn’t mean that is what Jesus would want.
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when referring to how if a man hits a woman once Jesus may not want them to separate.

this is a very bad topic and the stuff OP is saying is very dangerous for young people to read on here
 
I am so happy to hear that. I mostly post so those that find this a difficult process might not feel alone in their thoughts.

God bless you and yours!~
 
I know. I was just clarifying what I said in my post—which applies to me, with my life experience. Although in that experience, hitting is exactly what happens after arm grab.
 
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Sorry. It was my clearly failed attempt to inject a little humor. It’s from an old Monty Python quote.
 
i believe my husband ws seen someone else and he went to confession teeling the priest whom he knows both of us that i never loved him and that i was refusing to have isexual encounters whit him.so he advice my husband to live me and he did.after this another priest whom he also knows both of us call me and i explained to him that i have proof that my husband was cheating on me and he said that in that case he will help my husband to have the anulment wich he was looking for long time before and the divorce based only in my husband story.im desolated and after 26 years of marriage i found out that this priests instead of tryng to save our marriage they going to do the fastest way for my husband to be free.i feel very hurt because they only hear my husband side with ever call me to hear mine what cain of priest are this?is it possible for them to get the annulment even if i don’t want it?please help me .i don’t want an annulment or divorce.
 
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