Grounds for Marriage Annulment in the Catholic Church

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Oh no, those as well. Nobody should stay in an abusive relationship.
 
Mistakes under high stressed circumstances doesn’t always mean “an abusive relationship” to me.

You have your rights. I also have a right to show mercy and forgiveness.

Like I said, I’m glad my parents chose to keep the family bond.
 
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Mistakes under high stressed circumstances doesn’t always mean “an abusive relationship” to me.
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If those mistakes include physical violence, then yes, that’s exactly what constitutes an abusive relationship. If one party has to worry that a disagreement might turn violent, then the relationship becomes highly off-balance. And no one should have to live in fear.
 
Yep. Suffering against injustice and abuse is either by free will, or should not be done.

The idea is to balance the damage of a mistake and imperfect spouse with the damage of separating the family bond.

My parents saw that keeping the bond was greater. I thank God for that.
 
But if you are exposing the children to the suffering of injustice and abuse – then it’s not fine. It teaches them that it’s OK, or at least not that important, to act out the same way in their adult relationships.

My children thank God (and me) that I got us all out.
 
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Another vantage point: Do you want to be married to someone because they can’t leave, or be with someone because they choose ongoing commitment and love for you? Streamlining the process for a decree of nulity from what was incorrectly presumed to be a sacramental marriage is a step in the right direction.
 
Yes, it’s weighing the consequences of keeping the family bond or breaking it, and discerning if there is hope in the person actually overcoming as opposed to deep seated unwillingness to change.
 
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Yes, it’s weighing the consequences of keeping the family bond or breaking it, and discerning if there is hope in the person actually overcoming as opposed to deep seated unwillingness to change.
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But not forgetting that the person who may or may not be willing to change is the person who actually ruptured the marital bond.
 
Fair enough. We both have reason to believe our own approach can work.

I’m glad you have found the strength from God to remain single! (I believe you said that was your situation. As you also have not sought an annulment?)
 
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No on both counts. I am very, very happily married.
 
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Oh, ok! Sorry my mistake.

U received an annulment!

That’s definitely not the situation I’m talking about. It must be a sacrament to overcome what I’m talking about.
 
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It requires the grace of the Sacrament to be able to overcome these troubles in a marriage.
 
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Yep. Suffering against injustice and abuse is either by free will, or should not be done.

The idea is to balance the damage of a mistake and imperfect spouse with the damage of separating the family bond.

My parents saw that keeping the bond was greater. I thank God for that.
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Yes, my next-door neighbour thought that keeping the bond was more important than leaving after her husband beat her and the oldest child (the reason they “had to get married”) and had numerous affairs. Kept the bond intact even after the priest told her to leave when the abuse continued after a second & a third child were born. She kept the bond intact after he put a gun to her head.

She kept the bond intact through 8 children in all, only one of whom has had a stable marriage. The second child, a guy my age has had numerous affairs and, while he may not have physically abused his wife he has certainly made her life miserable in other ways, all his money going on his toys and mistresses. SHE kept the bond.

So much good comes out of not separating when there is abuse and children involved – NOT!
 
Thats way beyond what I was talking about! And most likely not a sacrament.

Sorry you didn’t understand my point

Thanks for manipulating my perspective. You have great skills!
 
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If you cannot see that manipulation of what I was saying, I don’t trust that you can see through other’s manipulation.
 
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