Gun Control vs Drug Control

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I noticed the thread in the forum regarding “Right to bear arms”.

In light of the recent violent attacks on children (by children?) I am posting important information for all readers on this forum. There has been much in the media about Gun Control post Sandy Hook CT tragedy.

However, do you find it odd or strange that nothing has been said about drugs and their impact on the “deranged” or perhaps “drug induced and mentally re-arranged” shooters?

There are 1000s cases of violence related to prescription meds yet NOTHING in the press!!! Please spread the word about these dangerous drugs.

LOOK AT THIS SHORT LIST EXCERPT OF PRESCRIPTION DRUG RELATED VIOLENCE (source: ssristories.com/index.php )
Murder Prozac 2011-09-16 Canada16 Year Old Stabs 15 Year Old: Will Be Tried in Youth Court Because of Bad Reaction to Prozac
Murder Attempt Wellbutrin2006-02-12Washington82 Year Old Man Found Not Guilty: Med Defense
Murder AttemptCelexa Antidepressants2011-02-08MassachusettsCoed at Wellesley Found Not Guilty Due to Celexa Antidepressant Use: Stabbed Boyfriend 8 times
Murder Zoloft1994-03-14AlabamaMan Found Not Guilty Due to Psychosis Caused by Zoloft
Murder Med For Depression2009-11-19EnglandMan Found Not Guilty of Killing Wife While Sleepwalking
Murder Zoloft2001-05-24AustraliaMan Found Not Guilty Using Zoloft Defense
Murder AttemptZoloft2004-04-24CaliforniaMan Found Not Guilty: Used Zoloft Defense
Murder Med For Depression2011-08-23EnglandMan Released From Prison Hospital Because his Murders Were Caused by Psychosis From Depression Med
Murder AttemptZoloft2002-11-04ArizonaMother Acquitted of Attempted Child MurderMurderPaxil & ADHD Drug2000-05-18WashingtonMother Stabs Daughter: Not Guilty by Reason of Drug Induced Insanity
Murder AttemptProzac2008-05-20ConnecticutNot Guilty Because of Psychosis Brought On by Prozac & Adderall
Murder Cymbalta Antidepressant2007-05-15TexasNot Guilty by Reason of Cymbalta Induced Insanity: Man Kills Wife
Murder Prozac2003-07-11LouisianaNot Guilty by Reason of Prozac Induced Insanity: Mother Kills Daughter
Murder Paxil2011-05-20CaliforniaWife Given Probation After Stabbing Husband Over 200 Times: Rage Caused by Meds
Murder Prozac1991-10-16CaliforniaWoman Kills Her Mother: Given Only 3 Years in Prison Because of Testimony Using Prozac Defense
Murder Attempt Prozac1998-10-13ScotlandWoman Stabs Boyfriend: Used Prozac Defense: Placed on Probation
Murder Cymbalta & Seroquel2011-08-09New York+.8 Year Old Boy Kidnapped & Killed as He Walked Home From School: Every Parents’ Nightmare
Murder Prozac2004-08-31Texas+10 Year Old Kills his Father, Who Is a Physician
Murder Zoloft2001-11-28South Carolina+12 Year Old Kills His Grandparents
Murder Prozac1994-10-23Iowa+14 Year Old Girl Stabs Great Aunt: Given Life in Prison
Murder Zoloft2004-05-03Montana+14 Year Old Murders his Mother & 10 Year Old
Murder Med For Depression2009-11-19EnglandMan Found Not Guilty of Killing Wife While Sleepwalking
Murder Zoloft2001-05-24AustraliaMan Found Not Guilty Using Zoloft Defense
Murder AttemptZoloft2002-11-04ArizonaMother Acquitted of Attempted Child Murder
Murder Prozac2009-11-19Missouri+15 Year Old Girl Kills 9 Year Old Neighbor to See What It Feels
School Shooting Prozac WITHDRAWAL 2008-02-15 Illinois ** 6 Dead: 15 Wounded: Perpetrator Was in Withdrawal from Med & Acting Erratically
School Shooting Prozac Antidepressant 2005-03-24 Minnesota **10 Dead: 7 Wounded: Dosage Increased One Week before Rampage
School Shooting Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant 2001-03-10 Pennsylvania **14 Year Old GIRL Shoots & Wounds Classmate at Catholic School
School Shooting Zoloft Antidepressant & ADHD Med 2011-07-11 Alabama **14 Year Old Kills Fellow Middle School Student
School Shooting Zoloft Antidepressant 1995-10-12 South Carolina **15 Year Old Shoots Two Teachers, Killing One: Then Kills Himself
School Shooting Med For Depression 2009-03-13 Germany **16 Dead Including Shooter: Antidepressant Use: Shooter in Treatment For Depression
School Hostage Situation Med For Depression 2010-12-15 France **17 Year Old with Sword Holds 20 Children & Teacher Hostage
School Shooting Plot Med For Depression WITHDRAWAL 2008-08-28 Texas **18 Year Old Plots a Columbine School Attack
School Shooting Anafranil Antidepressant 1988-05-20 Illinois **29 Year Old WOMAN Kills One Child: Wounds Five: Kills Self
School Shooting Luvox/Zoloft Antidepressants 1999-04-20 Colorado **COLUMBINE: 15 Dead: 24 Wounded
School Stabbings Antidepressants 2001-06-09 Japan **Eight Dead: 15 Wounded: Assailant Had Taken 10 Times his Normal Dose of Depression Med
School Shooting Prozac Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 1998-05-21 Oregon **Four Dead: Twenty Injured
School Stabbing Med For Depression 2011-10-25 Washington **Girl, 15, Stabs Two Girls in School Restroom: 1 Is In Critical Condition
School Shooting Antidepressant 2006-09-30 Colorado **Man Assaults Girls: Kills One & Self
School Machete Attack Med for Depression 2001-09-26 Pennsylvania **Man Attacks 11 Children & 3 Teachers at Elementary School
School Shooting Related Luvox 1993-07-23 Florida **Man Commits Murder During Clinical Trial for Luvox: Same Drug as in COLUMBINE: Never Reported
School Hostage Situation Cymbalta Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2009-11-09 New York **Man With Gun Inside School Holds Principal Hostage
School Shooting Antidepressants 1992-09-20 Texas **Man, Angry Over Daughter’s Report Card, Shoots 14 Rounds inside Elementary School
School Shooting SSRI 2010-02-19 Finland *On Sept. 23, 2008 a Finnish Student Shot & Killed 9 Students Before Killing Himself
School Shooting Threat Med for Depression 2004-10-19 New Jersey **Over-Medicated Teen Brings Loaded Handguns to School
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AspiringServant said:
I noticed the thread in the forum regarding “Right to bear arms”.

In light of the recent violent attacks on children (by children?) I am posting important information for all readers on this forum. There has been much in the media about Gun Control post Sandy Hook CT tragedy.

However, do you find it odd or strange that nothing has been said about drugs and their impact on the “deranged” or perhaps “drug induced and mentally re-arranged” shooters?

There are 1000s cases of violence related to prescription meds yet NOTHING in the press!!! Please spread the word about these dangerous drugs.

LOOK AT THIS SHORT LIST EXCERPT OF PRESCRIPTION DRUG RELATED VIOLENCE (source: ssristories.com/index.php )
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This is yet another important piece of the puzzle dealing with violent and deadly behavior perpetrated by young people. Not only the proliferation of guns, the lack of treatment for mental illness, the negative influence of living in a culture of violence, and the abuse of illicit drugs; but also the dangerous behavioral effects of prescribed medication to teenagers and young adults.
 
I’ve repeatedly been telling people that gun control is a useless, emotionally charged response to the many of these shooting events, including Sandy Hook. Imposing more control doesn’t address the problem, and simply means it WILL happen again. The focus must be on mental illness, and also the drugs associated with it.
 
Being a gun owner, husband, father, ex-mil person I must say that not everyone that uses mental illness drugs hurts people or themselves. Ive been on anti-depressants for 3 1/2 years now and I dont want to hurt no one. I also have a concealed permit and hunt alot with my children. Perhaps some of these people had a way too easy time obtaining weapons. We need to look where the weapons came from why.
 
I used to use Zoloft, and I never wanted to kill anyone. But I don’t know if it could have a different effect on someone else.
 
kimg901 said:
Being a gun owner, husband, father, ex-mil person I must say that not everyone that uses mental illness drugs hurts people or themselves. Ive been on anti-depressants for 3 1/2 years now and I dont want to hurt no one. I also have a concealed permit and hunt alot with my children. Perhaps some of these people had a way too easy time obtaining weapons. We need to look where the weapons came from why.
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Drugs react differently in different people. However, the drugs that were taken by Adam Lanza are problematic and should likely have not been approved for use.
 
I take a whole cocktail of antidepressants and that’s probably only thing that prevents me from going on a violent rampage. :whacky:
 
TheWarriorMonk said:
Drugs react differently in different people. However, the drugs that were taken by Adam Lanza are problematic and should likely have not been approved for use.
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What drugs was he using? I didnt hear or read what he was taking.
 
Unfortunately, anything to do with drugs listed are not going to be investigated in Joe Biden’s reccomendations to Obama
 
I think you may be missing a key facet when it comes to Rx drugs. First, the people prescribed these drugs are much more likely to be using them to temper violent or psychotic behavior. Careful monitoring of these drugs by competent and caring mental health professionals is crucial. Where these drugs become less effective is when you have doctors prescribing them who do not have the training necessary to carefully monitor the effects.

Don’t blame the drugs. The drugs don’t prescribe themselves. Also, millions upon millions have been successfully treated (myself included) with these drugs. Blame an overtaxed medical system and poor mental health care that will only get worse when Obamacare hits full force.
 
90Domer said:
I think you may be missing a key facet when it comes to Rx drugs. First, the people prescribed these drugs are much more likely to be using them to temper violent or psychotic behavior. Careful monitoring of these drugs by competent and caring mental health professionals is crucial. Where these drugs become less effective is when you have doctors prescribing them who do not have the training necessary to carefully monitor the effects.

Don’t blame the drugs. The drugs don’t prescribe themselves. Also, millions upon millions have been successfully treated (myself included) with these drugs. Blame an overtaxed medical system and poor mental health care that will only get worse when Obamacare hits full force.
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As well, Connecticut rejected a tightening of their mental health statues the past July.
 
Firstly, I want to state that I am not “anti-medicine”. Many pharmaceutical drugs have helped people suffering from mental illness tremendously.

In regards to your question, however:
AspiringServant said:
However, do you find it odd or strange that nothing has been said about drugs and their impact on the “deranged” or perhaps “drug induced and mentally re-arranged” shooters?
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There’s nothing odd or strange about if for cynical and suspicious citizens like me.😉 If you really want to know why the government will never go after medicine with the same zeal as it does againt firearms, all you have to do is run a search on the massive campaign donations that are bestowed upon our politicians by the big pharmaceutical companies during each election cycle. Here’s a helpful link to give you an idea:

consumerwatchdog.org/newsrelease/health-insurers-and-drug-companies-contributed-262-million-111th-congress
 
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