H1N1 Vaccine

[lakotak]

I don’t know if this is the right place, but can anyone tell me if the current H1N1 vaccine has anything to do with aborted fetus’ in its making. I am considering taking this vaccine? Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.

 

[CB_Catholic]

I don’t know if this is the right place, but can anyone tell me if the current H1N1 vaccine has anything to do with aborted fetus’ in its making. I am considering taking this vaccine? Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.

I did a brief search on the internet and also saw a program on how the vaccine is manufactured, and the only thing mentioned is that the vaccine is manufactured by incubating the virus in eggs, then either killing the virus for the injectible form, or attenuating the virus for the nasal form. I did not see anything about using fetal stem cells in the process. The process is the same as making the seasonal flu vaccine. You can do an internet search and learn about the vaccine- making process for the flu vaccine. I have been vaccinated against both this year without any side effects at all.

 

[06convert]

I heard that there are 2 forms of the vaccine. One of them uses diploid cells from human aborted fetal tissue. I don’t have a very good way to confirm this at the moment. But with this information you would do well to check on a full disclosure of the ingredients of this vaccine before accepting it. I think the 2nd form uses something from a chicken instead and would be acceptable.

Check a full ingredients list and if you see human diploid cells that would throw up red flags for me.

Before I even heard about the vaccines potentially containing material from human aborted fetal tissue I was very skeptical about this vaccination. When someone like Kathleen Sebelius throws her name behind something, I get a little worried about what the heck it is they are injecting people with.

 

[lakotak]

I heard that there are 2 forms of the vaccine. One of them uses diploid cells from human aborted fetal tissue. I don’t have a very good way to confirm this at the moment. But with this information you would do well to check on a full disclosure of the ingredients of this vaccine before accepting it. I think the 2nd form uses something from a chicken instead and would be acceptable.

Check a full ingredients list and if you see human diploid cells that would throw up red flags for me.

Before I even heard about the vaccines potentially containing material from human aborted fetal tissue I was very skeptical about this vaccination. When someone like Kathleen Sebelius throws her name behind something, I get a little worried about what the heck it is they are injecting people with.

Thank you so much. I have just sent an e-mail to see if I can find out.

 

[rpp]

For different, yet what I believe are compelling, reasons, I have decided not to receive the vaccine. My elderly mother, who lives with me, had made that same decision before I did. We were unaware of a possible link to tissue from murdered children. That only reinforces my decision.

I will add that we all need to make informed decisions regarding this. Do not get medical advice from Internet forums.

 

[bgic]

I have read blogs online and spoken to a few people we know. From what I have heard is that yes, miscarriages have been occuring when people who are pregnant get the H1N1 shot. My wife is pregnant and we will not get the shot. I would rather stay locked up in our house for the next season than get the shot.

I also have a third hand account of a family doctor that has vowed that he will not give his family the flu or H1N1 shots to his family. Kids who get the HN1 have still died from the H1N1.

Plus, how can we really trust that a vaccine that was created 6 months ago can be rushed out on the street having been tested enough. I don’t trust this government, the CDC and FDA, and our public welfare check’s and balances. They have allowed fetal stem cells into our vaccines w/o ever disclosing it until recently.

 

[06convert]

I have heard many cases where doctors refuse it. They don’t really give reasons, but they choose not to get it. Something is fishy here.

 

[centurionguard]

I heard that there are 2 forms of the vaccine. One of them uses diploid cells from human aborted fetal tissue. I don’t have a very good way to confirm this at the moment. But with this information you would do well to check on a full disclosure of the ingredients of this vaccine before accepting it. I think the 2nd form uses something from a chicken instead and would be acceptable.

Check a full ingredients list and if you see human diploid cells that would throw up red flags for me.

Before I even heard about the vaccines potentially containing material from human aborted fetal tissue I was very skeptical about this vaccination. When someone like Kathleen Sebelius throws her name behind something, I get a little worried about what the heck it is they are injecting people with.

What you have said here has drawn red flags with me also. Pharmaceutical Giant
GlaxoSmithKline in Toronto Canada is producing 70% of all H1N1 vaccine going both to the United States and Canada. Having recently talked to a Nurse friend of mine in my parish she tells me that few doctors are willing to release to patients information on the vaccine ingredients. After trying to get some info research from the C.D.C. in the United States and Health Canada, I had no luck. My Nurse friend happened to bring home an empty vaccine bottle. Here’s a low-down on the ingredients of type 2 H1N1 vaccine:

INGREDINTS LIST OF H1N1 VACCINE

In addition to the viral and bacterial RNA or DNA that is part of the vaccines, here are the fillers:

* aluminum hydroxide
* aluminum phosphate
* ammonium sulfate
* amphotericin B
* animal tissues: (pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain, dog kidney, monkey  kidney,     chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg, calf (bovine) serum
* betapropiolactone
* fetal bovine serum
* formaldehyde
* formalin
* gelatin
* glycerol
* human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue.
* hydrolyzed gelatin
* MSG (monosodium glutamate)
* Neomycin
* Neomycin sulfate
* Phenol red indidcator  /
* Phenoxyethanol (antifreeze) /
* potassium diphosphate  and monophosphate
* Polymyxin B
* Polysorbate 20 and 80
* Porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
* Residual MRC5 proteins
* Sorbitol sucrose
* Thimerosal (mercury)
* tri(n)butylphospate
* VERO cells (a continuous line of monkey kidney cells washed sheep red blood cells)

 

[bgic]

My one year old is getting ready to get some vaccinations again soon. I was so ignorant about vaccinations until recently.

Are there any non-diploid vaccinations out there? What are the alternatives? Aren’t there any ethical, pro-life vaccination manufacturers?

 

[EasterJoy]

I have heard many cases where doctors refuse it. They don’t really give reasons, but they choose not to get it. Something is fishy here.

People with degrees are people, too, and do things for reasons both rational and irrational. They aren’t given any information about the vaccines that is not available to the general public.

 

[IHeartAquinas]

Anyone who is skeptical about this strain of H1N1 and the rushed vaccination attempt should look up another historical debacle created by the CDC that happened in the '70s in response to…swine flu.

capitalcentury.com/1976.html

As that site points out, the “epidemic” in 1976 only killed one person. But the vaccine given out by the CDC is responsible for thousands of deaths.

I have never been inoculated against the flu and never will. The only immunizations I got were the ones required by school and university, plus polio (at my mom’s request when I was young). I think it’s better to allow your body to develop its own defenses than rely on a doctor injecting you with a live virus (thereby bypassing your outer defenses a la mucus glands and tonsils.)