Habits vs. No Habits

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This is not meant to be disrespectful to the Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration at Mother Angelica’s monastery. Just an FYI for anyone who wants to know.

The habit worn by the Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration at Mother’s monastery is not the traditional Poor Clare habit. This particular design was created in the mid 1990s. The design is not Franciscan. It is Dominican. The reason they were allowed this design is because the Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration are not the same Poor Clares founded by St. Francis and St. Clare. This community was founded in France after the French Revolution. They follow a different constitution and recently joined the Franciscan family. By recently I mean during the 20th century.

The traditiional Poor Clare habit is much simpler than this. It has only a black veil, no scapular, no pendant or cross on the chest, only a cord at the waist and sandals without stockings. The coif is is made of cotton without starch. The tunic is down to the ankles, per the Rule of St. Clare.

This is traditional Poor Clare habit. poor-clares.org/

Fraternally,

JR 🙂
Beautiful pictures on this Poor Clare website and overall a beautiful and inspirational website. Thanks JR!

Barb:)
 
Read Ungodly Rage by Donna Steichen and you will understand how the non-habited orders came to be.

They are disobedient to Holy Mother Church. Pope John Paull II asked that every religious order have habits. He did not say they must be like the older versions or what specifically, just that they have a habit. The habit is an outward sign of the Kingdom of God already present in this world. They are living that life now already, espoused to Christ.
He did not say they must be like the older versions or what specifically, just that they have a habit.
Creative thinking and thinking outside the square!👍
The habit is an outward sign of the Kingdom of God already present in this world. They are living that life now already, espoused to Christ./
The Church is the Spouse of Christ and since The Church are all the baptized we are all espoused to Christ. And if one continues to think creatively outside the square, all baptized women are religious sisters as all baptized men are religious brothers since we are all brothers and sisters of Christ who profess the same Faith or religion. We are all types of religious sisters and brothers and we are all called to poverty, chastity and obedience of spirit by virtue of our baptism.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03744a.htm
It is thus manifest that, when we regard the Church simply as the
of disciples, we are considering its external form only. Its inward life is found in the indwelling of the Holy Ghost, the gifts of faith, hope, and charity, the grace communicated by the sacraments, and the other prerogatives by which the children of God differ from the children of the world. This aspect of the Church is described by the Apostles in figurative language.*** They represent it as the Body of Christ***, the Spouse of Christ, the Temple of God.

I believe what will bring about real radical renewal in The Church and in religious life generally is to think creatively outside the square…not doctrinally of course. What is happening at the moment is same structure, same type of thinking within the square etc., change of dress only - i.e. outward appearances and changing the language. But then real radical change is a very slow process since it does involve risk, experimentation or trial and error and back to the drawing board and then the trial and error process again and it does take people courageous enough to be unafraid of risk (including potential mistake making, errors) and the experimentation process. It also takes people willing to let go of personal security which established structure can provide.

Barb:)
 
No wonder I thought it looks odder than the other Poor Clares. I think I prefer the austere habit of the Poor Clare nuns like Roswell and Belleville. I like the PCPA’s, don’t get me wrong, but I think if I were to join the Poor Clares (and I was considering it for a while), it would be one of the more traditional orders. 🙂
The Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration are a wonderful international community. The difference between them and the Poor Clares is in the enclosure and the vow of poverty. The Poor Clares live a stricter enclosure and they may not own property individually or as a community, per the Rule of St. Clare and St. Francis.

Their contemplative life of prayer and work are very similar, except that the Poor Clares have no contact with the outside world, in or out of habit. Yes, the Poor Clares do take off part of their habit to work, usually the veil and the coif. It’s a tradition that dates back to St. Francis himself when he ordered the friars to have one tunic with a hood and one without a hood so they could work more efficiently.

JR 🙂
 
The Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration are a wonderful international community. The difference between them and the Poor Clares is in the enclosure and the vow of poverty. The Poor Clares live a stricter enclosure and they may not own property individually or as a community, per the Rule of St. Clare and St. Francis.

Their contemplative life of prayer and work are very similar, except that the Poor Clares have no contact with the outside world, in or out of habit. Yes, the Poor Clares do take off part of their habit to work, usually the veil and the coif. It’s a tradition that dates back to St. Francis himself when he ordered the friars to have one tunic with a hood and one without a hood so they could work more efficiently.

JR 🙂
Do the Poor Clares still do the tonsuring ceremony when they are clothed in the habit and veil? I know pretty much (if not all) all the Carmelites perform this ceremony. I think it’s beautiful 🙂
 
Do the Poor Clares still do the tonsuring ceremony when they are clothed in the habit and veil? I know pretty much (if not all) all the Carmelites perform this ceremony. I think it’s beautiful 🙂
Tonsuring was never part of the Franciscan tradition. Neither the friars, nuns, sisters, or secular Franciscans have ever practiced the traditional tonsure.

Among the friars and the Secular Franciscans the tonsure is a simple cutting of five pieces of hair that form a cross on the head.

Among the Poor Clares, the postulant’s hair is cut about collar length; but it is not shaved like other cloistered communities have done in the past and some still do. St. Clare’s incorrupt body still has her original head of hair at the time of her death. It is grey and shoulder length.

Shaving a nun’s head came from the Benedictine tradition and was adopted by other enclosed orders, but not by the Poor Clares. Clare was ordered to follow the rules of St. Benedict, but she begged the Pope to allow her and her nuns to follow the rule of St. Francis. After 40 years of begging, the privilege was granted four days before she died.

Fraternally,

JR 🙂
 
Apparently the Poor Clares in Bethlehem Monastery in Virginia do not remove veil and coif to work outside in the fields, I particularly noticed this picture because it brought back memories of when penance could be absolutely cruel, especially in the Australian summer out in the garden. I noticed too in the picture below that the sisters in the fields in full habit are novices, who in the old days were tested and tried to the limit in various ways and nothing like an hour or so out in the garden in an Aussie summer with beating sun and not a breathe of wind, or worse that persistent hot north wind we can have - and in full habit trying to keep a crusty old lawnmower doing its job to the demanded standard of perfection for novices…ahhh now that’s penitential:D … when I saw the pic I hoped that it was a cold day in winter for the novices…it can be a demanding life and an extremely happy one if you are called to the life, and nothing quite like just listening quietly to the happy joyous gentle ripple of conversation and laughter of nuns at recreation. It used to remind me of the tinkling of different kinds of bells…the website really is worth looking at.

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Apparently the Poor Clares in Bethlehem Monastery in Virginia do not remove veil and coif to work outside in the fields, I particularly noticed this picture because it brought back memories of when penance could be absolutely cruel, especially in the Australian summer out in the garden. I noticed too in the picture below that the sisters in the fields in full habit are novices, who in the old days were tested and tried to the limit in various ways and nothing like an hour or so out in the garden in an Aussie summer with beating sun and not a breathe of wind, or worse that persistent hot north wind we can have - and in full habit trying to keep a crusty old lawnmower doing its job to the demanded standard of perfection for novices…ahhh now that’s penitential:D … when I saw the pic I hoped that it was a cold day in winter for the novices…it can be a demanding life and an extremely happy one if you are called to the life, and nothing quite like just listening quietly to the happy joyous gentle ripple of conversation and laughter of nuns at recreation. It used to remind me of the tinkling of different kinds of bells…the website really is worth looking at.

http://www.poor-clares.org/images/front-4.jpg
The Poor Clare nuns of Belleville, IL, don’t remove their veil or coif either to do work. They have a video on their website that demonstrates a day in the life of. poorclares-belleville.info/video/begin.htm I watched it and almost called them right afterwards because I had tears streaming down my face (call me impulsive), but I believe it was just because I strongly desire the austerity similar to them, but I belong to the Carmelites. 😊
 
The Poor Clare nuns of Belleville, IL, don’t remove their veil or coif either to do work. They have a video on their website that demonstrates a day in the life of. poorclares-belleville.info/video/begin.htm I watched it and almost called them right afterwards because I had tears streaming down my face (call me impulsive), but I believe it was just because I strongly desire the austerity similar to them, but I belong to the Carmelites. 😊
I dont have realtime player. My son will be here Monday from interstate and I’ll ask him about downloading it and maybe then I will be able to have a look at the website.

Removing veil and coif especially for manual work around garden and cloister is certainly common sense I think. They can be terribly restrictive especially the old style veil and coif and the head become terribly itchy in summer especially - and working in them most uncomfortable. When they first came into being women in society wore a coif of type with a veil of type and hence it was cultural all those hundreds of years ago. I think the habit came into being to standardize clothing inside the cloister as noble women wore beautiful clothing (same even entered with their servants and jewellery) and the peasant type sister poor peasant clothing. There were quite a few factors back those hundreds of years ago that cried out for standardization inside the cloister. Hence some of religious life tradition came about due to necessity. Necessity being the mother of invention. Hundreds of years later the question “Why?” to some monastic practises, drew the answer “Tradition” which was enough to silence the most curious and desiring to understand…a “magic” word one just did not question. Certainly I think that within Catholic society even today the religious habit for sisters and nuns is cultural, so much so that the religious habit speaks of the presence of Christ and The Gospel in society and is recognized by all in the general society as such. Consistency will bring about cultural change, no matter the culture. The pendant cross on shoulder or on a chain also announces Christ and The Gospel today. Certainly here in Australia distinctive pendant crosses on the shoulder or on a chain readily identify the woman as a religious sister of some kind, though in secular clothing. This is generally recognized by society here without problems…consistency has brought about change in our culture. It actually has advantages re evangelization over and above the habit. People dont ask women in religious habits if they are nuns - they take it for granted they are. But with the pendant or chain, people often ask if one is a religious, which immediately introduces the subject of Catholicism.

I know of one monastic community today who only wear their veils to Chapel and parlour. The veil is a modified one. I have certainly thought that those that persevered in religious life and especially perhaps monastic life pre V2 certainly did have vocations as one just could not persevere without one and all the necessary Graces to persevere with sanity and sense of humour intact.
There is a place for, and vocations and calls to, traditional religious life…there is also a place and vocations and calls to new forms of religious living and life. There is a place for the habit, just as there is a place for secular clothing…even a combination of the two. There is a place for a completely new design of ‘habit’ - what after all IS in a name?These are all matters of clothing (“be not anxious about what you are to wear”)
Matthew 6
26 Behold the birds of the air, for they neither sow, nor do they reap, nor gather into barns: and your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are not you of much more value than they? 27 And which of you by taking thought, can add to his stature by one cubit? 28 And for raiment why are you solicitous? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they labour not, neither do they spin. 29 But I say to you, that not even Solomon in all his glory was arrayed as one of these. 30 And if the grass of the field, which is today, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, God doth so clothe: how much more you, O ye of little faith?
No matter what one wears, we are all religious sisters of type and sister servants of the same Lord and Master…it is the type of sister servant that greatly varies. Consider the colour green in nature…can you find two colours green precisely the same…or the leaves on trees and plants, are any two precisely the same in colour or design? Unity in diversity and diversity in unity.
“You are the child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars, you have a right to be here.
And whether it is clear to you, or not…no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should” (Desiderata)

Room for all on this 'ere ship!👍

Barb:)
 
The Poor Clare nuns of Belleville, IL, don’t remove their veil or coif either to do work. They have a video on their website that demonstrates a day in the life of. poorclares-belleville.info/video/begin.htm I watched it and almost called them right afterwards because I had tears streaming down my face (call me impulsive), but I believe it was just because I strongly desire the austerity similar to them, but I belong to the Carmelites. 😊
I watched it and almost called them right afterwards because I had tears streaming down my face (call me impulsive),
Never be afraid to invest fully in who you are, CG! I love that hymn “Come as you are, that’s how I want you”. I heard somewhere or other this great maxim “Be yourself, because everyone else is taken”.
But I first cottoned on to what can happen in relationships from Bob Dylan, who taught me much! True contemplatives are listeners and can hear the voice of The Holy Spirit all around them in the whole of creation without exception…for The Holy Spirit is not a snob and certainly not a spiritual snob. I first learnt this from a contemplative nun I know who used to amaze me with the wonderful lessons and thoughts she could draw from most anything and everything. For her the whole universe certainly was alive with the Spirit of God.

“I try to be myself, but everyone else wants me to be just like him”. (Bob Dylan)

Wanting others to be like me and being wary of those who are different from me, is a way of my insecurities about myself being dealt with (in a way that is totally illusion and delusional) I start to feel deludedly secure because I fit in with all the rest and they fit in with me…I am just like everyone else and everyone else is just like me and we can ignore the rest as “mentally ill”😃 . Psychology calls it “the herding instinct”. And individuality is supressed first by the self and then also by society and so Ann Raynd “Anthem” had a very valid point as her central theme. We suppress our individuality because we dont want to face the truth of matters that we really are alone in this universe, I am unique and a one off only as every single creature is…borne out by the fact that at final judgement we must stand absolutely alone before God becuase that is where we always are - before He who knows me and all as well as we know ourselves, in fact better than that.
True individuality and an individual who is true to self cannot compromise community and the common good - it is totally illogical and impossible since both flow from God and can God compromise Himself?

Bears thought!

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From another post and another thread:
“some communities of course refused to do even that and refused to modernize at all as the Holy Father had instructed - this is something that those who cry “Disobedient!” for those that have decided to abandoned the religious habit and old ways do not consider - that is their own disobedience.”
See my Post HERE

A document that I think every person considering a religious vocation and all others interested in religious life should read with prayerful careful reflection:
cin.org/v2relig.html
ADAPTATION AND RENEWAL OF RELIGIOUS LIFE Perfectae Caritatis


The document needs to be read very carefully and prayerfully, as one part can be qualified/balanced by another part.

Removing my signature, I’ve taken up enough space for sure in this thread! :o I have decided to leave school at least until mid 2009 when I will review my decision. This gives me free time (apologies!:o ) just until I adjust to having free time and will be a time of reviewing Bethany here as a lifestyle but not my commitment to Bethany.

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From another post and another thread:

Removing my signature, I’ve taken up enough space for sure in this thread! :o I have decided to leave school at least until mid 2009 when I will review my decision. This gives me free time (apologies!:o ) just until I adjust to having free time and will be a time of reviewing Bethany here as a lifestyle but not my commitment to Bethany.
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Wha’?! Who??

Explain please!

–there is a very nice remnant of Bethany in Maine–Dominicans

w3.ime.net/~sisterop/
 
Wha’?! Who??

Explain please!

–there is a very nice remnant of Bethany in Maine–Dominicans

w3.ime.net/~sisterop/
Apologies!:o …I am 63yrs old and until about a week ago had been a student at an adult campus (Sth. Aust) after giving it much thought over an extended period, I decided to leave for a while and review the lifestyle here I call “Bethany”…I am under private vows to this way of life, which is simply a quite radical following of the Gospel in the spirit of Martha and Mary and Lazurus who lived in Bethany. I am under private vows (priest director) to the evangelical counsels… I live alone.
I have impediments to traditional religious life and now age too here is against me - so I decided (putting things in the nutshell) to invent my own way of religious living.:D…though it unfolded in my path rather than an actual working out process undertaken. I have lived this way for over 25yrs now.

Over this break from school I will decide whether I will perhaps take up voluntary work or return to counselling on a voluntary basis (I am a trained counsellor) - or perhaps return to school. If none of those, then I will have decided to live a more intense contemplative lifestyle though with an apostolate, but this is another story.

Because I am in South Aust. and a different time zone from the majority on CAF here, I am usually up and about including on CAF while all others on CAF are asleep - hence I tend to post at times a number of posts into the one thread and my signature does take up a bit of space, so in the hope of creating the illusion I am not posting so much:D …now and then I remove my signature:D 😃

Barb:)
 
I agree that this discussion will never end because, unfortunately, the pluralistic interpretation of Religious Life has splintered in the course of the ages. There is definitely a strong religious activism also going on in the Church and there will always be plenty of reasons and justifications over something if one is bent to prove one’s case. I am a Carmelite Religious who wears the habit. I am convinced of its importance and meaning. I don’t believe that the habit is a mere option. The Church in her documents is very clear that Religious should wear a religious garb which will identify them as consecrated women. Religious Life is a life of consecration and mission.
Opposition to the habit ranges from the intellectual to the personal. There will never be any want of a reason or explanation for something if one is bent in finding it. The habit truly does not make or define a Religious. But it is a constant reminder to the one who wears it that she is called to a life of self-forgetfulness, obedience, poverty and chastity.
It can be a turn-off for some people, but only initially. Once they get passed the external (habit) they react to the person normally. This can also happen both ways with a habited Sister- you can turn off an initial response of respect and admiration into disgust and disappointment because she has not lived up to the symbolism her habit is hoping to convey.
For practical side of things, a habit frees you from thinking of what clothes to wear or things like that.
But I agree with someone here who suggested that if you are discerning for the right community for you, spend your time on those which embodies what you are looking for and don’t even waste time on the ones that don’t attract you at all. The fiield of the Lord is huge and there are many mansions for everyone. It is sad though that we have to go through this dissensions and create a stumbling block for those who are searching.
I am happy with my Carmelite vocation and intend to stay with Rome.
 
Although I feel wrong in criticizing any Religious Orders, I do not like the Orders that do not wear habits. For one thing, I can’t take them seriously as Sisters, no matter how they act. They just don’t seem like they really are Sisters. Second of all, I would not realize any Sisters were actually Sisters if they came up to me. When I went to open house at the College of St. Elizabeth, the Order of Sisters on the campus do not wear habits. One of the Sisters came up to me and introduced herself as Sr. Dianne (I believe her name was). In my mind I was thinking “Are you sure? If you say so” but of course I had to be respectful. I’m not transferring there anyway.
 
When I look at pictures of religious women on websites, It’s hard not to take them as–religious women. When so many are middle aged and beyond, what I see is a middle aged woman with short hair, not much or any makeup, in a plain simple suit or white blouse, dark skirt and vest with a crucifix and/or pin on the lapel. No, it’s not a full habit and veil with lots of starch and a fifteen decade rosary, but in today’s world, that simple modern garb is very conspicuous. I think that it fulfills the Vatican norms. It’s simple, modest, becoming and religious. Many communities appear now to have a number of options in veil/no veil, modified habit with cowl neck vs. a white blouse with vest, sweater, jacket.

There is a tendency to equate habits with growth. But there are a relatively few congregations of women that attract *a lot *of final professions. There are a lot of habited congregations who, according to their websites and the few published sources out there (The Guide to Religious Ministries, Institute for Religious LIfe for CMSWR members) aren’t attracting many new members–that’s final professions, not necessarily candidates, aspirants, postulants. One case in point is that two monasteries of Discalced Carmelite nuns closed last year–both in full habit. The aging congregations that are shrinking include many who opted to modernize, it is true. But there were too many sisters in the first place, who entered a new era that could not sustain their growth. It many be that in time the growth of the habited congregations, fueled by the web and electronic media, will stabilize, too.
 
Speaking as a religious (one who does wear a habit) I don’t know how aware the lay faithful are of how uncomfortable we who wear habits become when this conversation comes up. We (religious) do not see this as a us vs them or habit vs non habits. We see this is a question that is about charisms, history and choice. It makes us very uncomfortable when it is discussed as A vs B, because it sounds as if there are two camps of religious who are in opposition to each other. This is not the case at all. We actually work well together. We get along well and we do wonderful things together. Please don’t do this to us. Don’t classify us into those who look like religious and those who don’t. We don’t like it. You’re not doing us favors. You’re creating a juxtaposition in an area where we religious have none. Those of us who wear a habit do not care if another religious does not do so. We care about his/her charism.

The habit is no guarrantee that someone is faithful to the charism of the community, obedient to the founder, faithful to the Gospel, charitable in all things, prayerful and penitential. We had habits for centuries. We had sisters in habits breaking kids’ arms in schools, religious molesting children, priests living in sin with men, women or both, dirty politics inside monasteries and so on. Holiness is a journey that involves the will of man and the grace of God.

When we look at the question of habits we ask ourselves what was the wish of the founder? I don’t mean to be rude, but we never ask what does the laity want or what is good for the laity when speaking about a habit. The response to religious life is very much like the response to marriage. You fall in love with a charism just as a man falls in love with a woman. The habit may or may not be part of that charism.

It may have been the intent of the founder to have a habit. It may have been the intent of the founder not to have a habit. In many cases, founders did not think it was necessary. Sometimes the habit crept in because it was the thing to do. Other religious were doing it. Those religious have to examine themselves and ask if they should or should not wear a habit. They certainly should not wear it, if their founder did not want it. Just because someone else says that it makes them feel good is not a good enough reason. The founder is the patriarch or matriarch of the community. He or she is the person with the vision and to whom the Holy Spirit revealed the charism.

Even the most sinful founders were gifted by the Holy Spirit with a vision. That vision is what should govern the community. If there is a habit in that vision, it must be followed. It there is not, then one has some flexibility. If there was adamant opposition to the habit, from the founder, then there should be no habit.

A perfect example is Mother Teresa. Her vision was to found a society in which the women were Indian. She made it clear from the beginning that this was what Jesus had told her and that her sisters, whethere they came from India or America, were to be Indian in their form of dress and in their customs. Therefore, they wear a sari and bow. The European model of the habit is taboo among them. They would not trade the sari for a shorter veil, blouse and skirt, because that’s not Indian. People don’t know that the Missionaries of Charity also have men religious. You don’t know it because Christ told Mother Teresa that he did not want them to be noticed. There rule prohibits the use of a habit by male Missionaries of Charity. They call themselves brothers, but they follow the Franciscan model. Some brothers are ordained. However, it is their mission to go through the world doing good for the poorest of the poor without being noticed. They wear no habit and no Roman collars. It would be wrong for the faithful to wish that they did so, just so that they could recognize them. Would anyone here want a Missionary of Charity to act contrary to the vision of Mother Teresa?

Some founders had a vision that included a habit and others did not. Our own founder, St. Francis, included a habit in his rule. However, he was much more liberal than St. Dominic. That’s why you see only one version of the Dominican habit and literally over 100 versions of the Franciscan habit. The only rule that Francis had is that it be a tunic with or without a hood and a chord. Franciscan men and women can decide what that tunic should look like. You have many variations. You always recognize the chord. St. Clare’s advice was even more flexible. She told her nuns to wear a habit that was modest, comfortable, appropriate for the climate and the culture where they found themselves. That was a radical way of thinking to include culture in the admonition.

Every community has its founder, its charism and its reasons. For some, the founders did not want them to be so visible. Another group that I just recalled that were told by their founder not to distinguish themselves in public are the Brothers of Mary. They wear whatever is worn by secular educators. Their founder wanted the to be excellent Christian teachers, not visible religious.

When I meet a religious from a religious family that I don’t know, I don’t ask myself why they don’t do things the way that the Franciscan family does them. Take it easy on religious that do not wear a habit and be mindful that it’s not about what the faithful want or like. It’s about the charism that the Holy Spirit gave to the founder for the good of the religious and the world.

Pray for and support religious who are trying to be faithful to their charism, whether the charism includes a habit or not. If you’re not sure of the charism, get curious. Read about it. 👍 I don’t know about every founder and every charism. I just look it up or I ask them.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I just want to point out that I started this topic in October 2008 under an old, retired screename. I no longer feel as strongly as I used to about habits. Of course, I still prefer the wearing of a habit, but I’ve relaxed somewhat. 🙂
 
Some of the best arguments I have heard about wearing the habit have come from Archbishop Fulton Sheen. It would take to much time to go in to them all here but one story im reminded of here is that of a nun without a habit who was kidnapped in San Francisco by two men who told her they were going to rape her. She told them she was a nun they said to her we dont believe you. She said to them then ring up my school. So they rang up her school. The school confirmed what she said. So they ran a knife down her back. and made the sign of the cross on it. And they said to her ‘just so we’ll know the next time we see you’ Bishop Fulton sheen commenting on this says ‘The world wont let you forget your a religious’.
You are right in saying a religious should be different this is what the word holiness means. It means ‘set apart’.
Try to get hold of some of Archbishop fulton sheens tapes or cds they are well worth listening to.
May God bless you and guide you in your choice of life for him.
 
Some of the best arguments I have heard about wearing the habit have come from Archbishop Fulton Sheen. It would take to much time to go in to them all here but one story im reminded of here is that of a nun without a habit who was kidnapped in San Francisco by two men who told her they were going to rape her. She told them she was a nun they said to her we dont believe you. She said to them then ring up my school. So they rang up her school. The school confirmed what she said. So they ran a knife down her back. and made the sign of the cross on it. And they said to her ‘just so we’ll know the next time we see you’ Bishop Fulton sheen commenting on this says ‘The world wont let you forget your a religious’.
You are right in saying a religious should be different this is what the word holiness means. It means ‘set apart’.
Try to get hold of some of Archbishop fulton sheens tapes or cds they are well worth listening to.
May God bless you and guide you in your choice of life for him.
I was blessed enough to listen to a tape when I visited my former community during silent supper. It was the first time I’d ever heard of him and his voice stuck in my head. Then I saw him on EWTN from years past. Then my mom bought a CD about Easter with his narration. I think he follows me around quite a bit.

I was also fortunate enough to meet Fr. Andrew Apostoli who is Vice-Postulator for his cause for canonization. He told me all about him and how he was ordained to the priesthood when Bishop Sheen was Bishop of New York. Pretty cool! 👍
 
Some of the best arguments I have heard about wearing the habit have come from Archbishop Fulton Sheen. It would take to much time to go in to them all here but one story im reminded of here is that of a nun without a habit who was kidnapped in San Francisco by two men who told her they were going to rape her. She told them she was a nun they said to her we dont believe you. She said to them then ring up my school. So they rang up her school. The school confirmed what she said. So they ran a knife down her back. and made the sign of the cross on it. And they said to her ‘just so we’ll know the next time we see you’ Bishop Fulton sheen commenting on this says ‘The world wont let you forget your a religious’.
You are right in saying a religious should be different this is what the word holiness means. It means ‘set apart’.
Try to get hold of some of Archbishop fulton sheens tapes or cds they are well worth listening to.
May God bless you and guide you in your choice of life for him./QUOTE

This story sounds apocryphal.

I don’t think that a habit would protect her at all now.
 
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