Halloween?

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Why would early Christians name Easter after a pagan god?
The early Christians called the festival Pascha. The name Easter was the name the feast got when it was explained to the Saxons–that is, in the process of translating the idea of Resurrection into their language–so the name for the feast in English is Easter.
 
Like many here, my family will dress up, carve pumpkins and go trick-or-treating. However, I draw the line at dressing up like or decorating with demons, vampires, witches and other things satanic.

I also will NEVER allow my children - or myself again for that matter - to watch horor movies. I’ve seen the Indiana State University brain scan study on violent media’s effect on the brain. Violent media damages brains.

I view Halloween more as All Hallows Eve than some secular holiday to practice the redistribution of wealth (or candy).

If you put together All Hallows Eve, All Saints Day and All Souls Day, we have a week to remember, pray for intercession of, and pray for the souls of the Faithful who have departed this world and are in Heaven or who are still purging their last desires for sin.

I’m hoping I’m ballanceing the approach, not too devilish, not too secularish, but still celebrating God, as we should do with everything we do - including when we practice the redistribution of candy 🙂

May God Bless you :signofcross:
 
Okay, maybe it was an understatement to say it was the ONLY one I noticed, but it was at least the only only one I could think of off the top of my head. In retrospect I should have figured that all that stuff was pagan in origin.
 
Okay, maybe it was an understatement to say it was the ONLY one I noticed, but it was at least the only only one I could think of off the top of my head. In retrospect I should have figured that all that stuff was pagan in origin.
“Pagan origins” only means that a monotheist can’t be proven to have employed the practice first. By that measure, using fire, making tools, and burying the dead have pagan origins. IOW: Pagan origin hardly taints a practice for the rest of eternity!
 
My family sees halloween as an annual celebration of demonic forces…we do not recognize it.
That’s fair. It’s not on the General Calendar, so you’re free to take it or leave it, according to whether you judge its effect on your family to be good or not. That’s the parent’s job.

I don’t see it as a celebration of a demonic forces, though. I see it as a refusal to be in any way dominated by fear of those things that pretend power they do not have. I have no fear of death, and so I have no fear of skeletons or bloody injuries. I have no fear of black cats or people who have odd looks or black clothing. Dress up as scary as you like…I know better. I see Halloween as a sort of the opposite of the Salem witchcraft trials: that is, as a refusal to get hysterical when evil tells its lies. It is all Hallow’s Eve, and the day after shows where the power really is!

Still, that is just my take on it. I can understand the other side, particularly since evil is already glamourized very much these days. The Church leaves these questions up to us because this is in the province of the parent in a particular home and a particular culture to decide. That is why unless a particular culture pointedly made local observances of Halloween into an anti-Christian holiday, I don’t expect the bishops to direct this one way or the other.

As an example, I could understand it if the Archbishop of San Francisco advised Catholics to stay away from adult Halloween observances in that city. Those are so blatantly anti-Catholic and so blatantly celebratory of serious sin, and particularly so vulgar and hateful towards clergy and professional religious that it is hardly to be believed. If a priest in his clerical clothing couldn’t be seen at an event without being openly taunted or thought an enemy of the Church, that’s an event that conscience requires us to boycott! :mad:
 
I also will NEVER allow my children - or myself again for that matter - to watch horor movies. I’ve seen the Indiana State University brain scan study on violent media’s effect on the brain. Violent media damages brains.
Random: I’m curious what you consider a horror movie? In my view the really good horror doesn’t indulge itself in excessive violence.
people who have odd looks or black clothing.
This could describe me most days 😃
Still, that is just my take on it. I can understand the other side, particularly since evil is already glamourized very much these days. The Church leaves these questions up to us because this is in the province of the parent in a particular home and a particular culture to decide. That is why unless a particular culture pointedly made local observances of Halloween into an anti-Christian holiday, I don’t expect the bishops to direct this one way or the other.
Yeah. My biggest problem with halloween celebrations is the sort of costumes they think adult women want to wear! Since when did a mini-skirt and bra qualify as a costume?!!? I tend to avoid more public stuff for that reason - I don’t like the sort of environment that results in.
 
My family sees halloween as an annual celebration of demonic forces…we do not recognize it.
Halloween becomes the meaning you pour into it. If you want to embrace the roots of it’s dark side, that’s what you’ll see.

On the other hand I think most look at it as a fun day to let our hair down and indulge in a playful fantasy with masks, makeup, and the like. I actual think of “All Hallows Eve” which has a mystical and spiritual connotation to it. The spooky and scary stuff gets me looking at humanitys mortality and can be fun with skeletons and all.

My only exception is young children watching (or being exposed to) violent slasher films that are played at this time of the year. Especially my daughter.
 
I am not embracing the darkness of this day. Period. That is the whole point.
You have free will to do that if you wish.
Lighten up. The point is you see what you want to see which is the bad side of Halloween, and you are free to do that. There is another side to it that others enjoy. Maybe you don’t see that.
 
Yeah. My biggest problem with halloween celebrations is the sort of costumes they think adult women want to wear! Since when did a mini-skirt and bra qualify as a costume?!!? I tend to avoid more public stuff for that reason - I don’t like the sort of environment that results in.
When you take Halloween above the level of middle schoolers and especially when it is aimed at single people over the legal drinking age, it gets very vulgar and very inappropriate very fast. Even the pagans are offended…actually the pagans might even be the most offended! Can anyone blame them? It was their Dia de los Muertos, not a carnival of drunkenness and debauchery.

I don’t think the topic of death ought to be avoided, but holidays that aren’t rated PG are just bad. Sin becomes not just a risk, but de rigueur among those who feel a need to compete in their outrageousness. Very small kids might not be able to handle A Christmas Carol, but any worse than that, and you’re past what ought to be incorporated in a tradition.
Lighten up. The point is you see what you want to see which is the bad side of Halloween, and you are free to do that. There is another side to it that others enjoy. Maybe you don’t see that.
Live and let live means letting her leave it alone, too! It isn’t an established good, so she doesn’t have to approve in order to please someone else.

It’s easier to get away with rejecting all rock’n’roll written after 1969 than to reject Halloween. :rolleyes:
 
That’s fair. It’s not on the General Calendar, so you’re free to take it or leave it, according to whether you judge its effect on your family to be good or not. That’s the parent’s job.

I don’t see it as a celebration of a demonic forces, though. I see it as a refusal to be in any way dominated by fear of those things that pretend power they do not have. I have no fear of death, and so I have no fear of skeletons or bloody injuries. I have no fear of black cats or people who have odd looks or black clothing. Dress up as scary as you like…I know better. I see Halloween as a sort of the opposite of the Salem witchcraft trials: that is, as a refusal to get hysterical when evil tells its lies. It is all Hallow’s Eve, and the day after shows where the power really is!

Still, that is just my take on it. I can understand the other side, particularly since evil is already glamourized very much these days. The Church leaves these questions up to us because this is in the province of the parent in a particular home and a particular culture to decide. That is why unless a particular culture pointedly made local observances of Halloween into an anti-Christian holiday, I don’t expect the bishops to direct this one way or the other.

As an example, I could understand it if the Archbishop of San Francisco advised Catholics to stay away from adult Halloween observances in that city. Those are so blatantly anti-Catholic and so blatantly celebratory of serious sin, and particularly so vulgar and hateful towards clergy and professional religious that it is hardly to be believed. If a priest in his clerical clothing couldn’t be seen at an event without being openly taunted or thought an enemy of the Church, that’s an event that conscience requires us to boycott! :mad:
I have heard that in some places people are exhorted to keep close watch on any pets or farm animals they may have because there are Satanists who steal animals to sacrifice in public parks on Halloween night.
 
When you take Halloween above the level of middle schoolers and especially when it is aimed at single people over the legal drinking age, it gets very vulgar and very inappropriate very fast. Even the pagans are offended…actually the pagans might even be the most offended! Can anyone blame them? It was their Dia de los Muertos, not a carnival of drunkenness and debauchery.

I don’t think the topic of death ought to be avoided, but holidays that aren’t rated PG are just bad. Sin becomes not just a risk, but de rigueur among those who feel a need to compete in their outrageousness. Very small kids might not be able to handle A Christmas Carol, but any worse than that, and you’re past what ought to be incorporated in a tradition.

Live and let live means letting her leave it alone, too! It isn’t an established good, so she doesn’t have to approve in order to please someone else.

It’s easier to get away with rejecting all rock’n’roll written after 1969 than to reject Halloween. :rolleyes:
I’m missing the part where I said someone had to please me about Halloween. Many people see a fun, playful side to Halloween. If one wants to look into Halloweens roots and see only the dark side, is it not normal that this is their version of Halloween?

Whats with the hypersensitivity? No one is being attack.
 
Well, I’m probably not doing anything unless I go to see my nieces and nephews in their costumes. I am not married and don’t have any children so I’ll probably be staying at home doing what I usually do. We don’t get trick or treaters where I live. I guess our apartment complex has some sort of rule against it.
 
I’m light as a feather. Yourself?
No. That would be called relativism.
I do not see another side. Sorry.
What exactly is offending you? That multitudes of Catholics see another side of Halloween and I brought it up to you?
 
I think you are the one being hypersensitive. There many people who do not see a light or fun side of halloween…include some saints.
Several stores in our area put signs on their doors saying that no one is to enter the store wearing a Halloween mask. They are, I suppose, attempting to foil someone who might enter with the intention of holding the places up.
 
I think you are the one being hypersensitive. There many people who do not see a light or fun side of halloween…include some saints.
. This whole thread has been about the fun side of Halloween. If it’s so offensive to see the fun side of Halloween someone should shut the thread down. Oh, it must be wrong of me to bring up the fun side of Halloween to one of the people who doesn’t like Halloween even though they are on a thread about Halloween. This is still CAF, right?
 
This whole thread has been about the fun side of Halloween.
Not really. Not the whole thread.
If it’s so offensive to see the fun side of Halloween someone should shut the thread down.
I am not offended by anything that anyone has said. We all have free will.
Oh, it must be wrong of me to bring up the fun side of Halloween to one of the people who doesn’t like Halloween even though they are on a thread about Halloween.
Why must you be overly dramatic?
 
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