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calinorth86
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Who are the descendants of Ham. Shem, and Japheth. Is it true that the descendants of Ham and Canan are black people? What is the Catholic answer for this question?
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Todd977
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From the New American Bible Revised Edition footnotes on Genesis 10:
In general, the descendants of Japheth (vv. 2–5) are the peoples of the Indo-European languages to the north and west of Mesopotamia and Syria; the descendants of Ham (vv. 6–20) are the Hamitic-speaking peoples of northern Africa; and the descendants of Shem (vv. 21–31) are the Semitic-speaking peoples of Mesopotamia, Syria and Arabia. But there are many exceptions to this rule; the Semitic-speaking peoples of Canaan are considered descendants of Ham, because at one time they were subject to Hamitic Egypt (vv. 6, 15–19). (source)
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Vic_Taltrees_UK
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It isn’t about colour nor about descent or about geography.
The footnote cited doesn’t make much sense, linguistically either. Many Bible editions get padded out by literalistic verbiage.
The only meaning in doctrine is the symbolic one regarding attitudes. Ham was judgmental towards his father and Canaan carried the resultant emotional baggage to extremes, representing people-pleasers.
The footnote cited doesn’t make much sense, linguistically either. Many Bible editions get padded out by literalistic verbiage.
The only meaning in doctrine is the symbolic one regarding attitudes. Ham was judgmental towards his father and Canaan carried the resultant emotional baggage to extremes, representing people-pleasers.
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SnoopSword
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Well the ‘science’ like DNA and other evidence are proving the above to be ‘somewhat correct’. Especially mapping DNA ‘types’ to the table of nations. That work is continuing today and showing the Bible to accurate from Noah. [And I’m not speaking of ‘Jewish DNA’ so exclude their various ‘salvation-based-alchemy’ pastimes with true research into historical evidence].
As far as Canaan (Cain) being black that is FALSE and from the Talmud Sanhedrin 108a (34). Like all teaching form those who deny Christ, it was popular in Masonic Lodges and among Masons like Peter Joseph and founders of The Watchtower Society, The Tract Society etc. Those are the false teachings.
But there are some truths that are undeniable.
-There are 3 to 4 ‘base racial types’. Skin color is surprisingly not that exclusive. People would be amazed to find this.
-Humans have possible four general blood types: A, B, AB and O. Amazingly, skin color is not exclusive to any one type.
-15% of humans have RH- Blood which is like nothing else in the universe. We also don’t have compatible blood with each other which suggests mixing was done by some sort of beings and could not have evolved. Oddly, RH- bloodtypes will sometimes have An extra rib or vertebra
-RH negative blood cannot be traced anywhere else in nature and disproves evolution 100% case closed. Don’t believe me? Read below…
-All animals and other living creatures known to man can breed with any other of their species. Relative size and color makes no difference. When the mother is Rh negative and the father is Rh positive, the fetus can inherit the Rh factor from the father. If that happens, an RH negative Mother may abort the fetus because they mothers blood consider the fetus as FOREIGN! Proof positive scripture is correct.
-This is WHY Jesus had to be ‘Fully God, Fully Flesh’ or ‘Fully Man’ and why he needed to be a ‘second Adam’ and why Mary required the Immaculate Conception.
-The science above, co-insides with Shem, Ham, and Japeth. off the Ark. (3 ark-types).
Gen 6:2 “The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and took them wives, all of which they chose.” – TWO of ‘something’ inter-mixed together.
Gen 6:4 THE NEPHILIM [FALLEN ONES] APPEARED ON EARTH in those days, as well as later, after THE SONS OF GOD HAD INTERCOURSE WITH THE DAUGHTERS OF HUMAN BEINGS, who bore them SONS. They were the heroes of old, the men of renown. – More mixing?
As far as the Ham and Canaan, well, here’s some clues:
Lev 20:11 The man who lies with HIS FATHER’S WIFE HAS UNCOVERED HIS FATHER’S NAKEDNESS
1 Cor 5: It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is NOT as much NAMED AMONG THE GENTILES-that a MAN HAS HIS FATHER’S WIFE… 5 deliver such a one to SATAN for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
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StGerardMajella
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Short form answer:
Japheth = Europe
Shem = Asia
Ham = Africa
For disgracing Noah, we read later that Ham would be enslaved to his brethren, and that Japheth and Shem would have to work together to “keep Ham in line”. Japheth would rely on Shem as a spiritual leader.
There is excellent Jewish commentary regarding this subject in the Stone Edition of the Chumash, as well as in Rashi, one of the foremost Jewish commentators.
Japheth = Europe
Shem = Asia
Ham = Africa
For disgracing Noah, we read later that Ham would be enslaved to his brethren, and that Japheth and Shem would have to work together to “keep Ham in line”. Japheth would rely on Shem as a spiritual leader.
There is excellent Jewish commentary regarding this subject in the Stone Edition of the Chumash, as well as in Rashi, one of the foremost Jewish commentators.
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Stephen_says
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Fun Fact: there is a Jewish tradition that Shem is the same person as Melchizedek.
Doesn’t really have to do with the topic, but I wanted to share
Doesn’t really have to do with the topic, but I wanted to share
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