Hamas TV Scientist Dr. Ahmad Al-Muzain: Bayer Invented Its Cure for AIDS on the Basis of a Hadith by Prophet Muhammad about the Wings of Flies

[MugenOne]

Hamas TV Scientist Dr. Ahmad Al-Muzain: Bayer Invented Its Cure for AIDS on the Basis of a Hadith by Prophet Muhammad about the Wings of Flies

memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/1889.htm

Following are excerpts from a program featuring Dr. Ahmad Al-Muzain, a Palestinian expert on Koranic science, which aired on Al-Aqsa TV on September 19, 2008:

	  **Quote:** 	 	 	  Ahmad Al-Muzain: The Prophet Muhammad said: "If a fly falls into your drink, you should dip it in the drink, and then dispose of the fly, because one of its wings bears a disease, and the other wing bears the cure." This hadith was included in the Al-Bukhari collection. This hadith makes it absolutely clear that the Prophet Muhammad confirmed a clear scientific fact: If a fly falls into a vessel – before a person drinks from this vessel, he should dip the fly in his drink, before disposing of it. Then he should drink the beverage, because it won't do him any harm. Why? Because one of the fly's wings bears the disease, and the other one bears the cure.

This is unbelievable!

 

[ralphinal]

Even though I do not work in the science field, I have a strong science background.

I will not accept a scientific “story” that does not cite the study, the meathodology, and the specific hypothoses and findings.

In other words, this is horse pucky.

Typical propaganda aimed at an uneducated, illiterate fan base who would not know the scientific meathod if it bit them on the behind.

 

[cathopologist]

This hadith was included in the Al-Bukhari collection. This hadith makes it absolutely clear that the Prophet Muhammad confirmed a clear scientific fact: If a fly falls into a vessel – before a person drinks from this vessel, he should dip the fly in his drink, before disposing of it. Then he should drink the beverage, because it won’t do him any harm. Why? Because one of the fly’s wings bears the disease, and the other one bears the cure.
This is unbelievable!

So when is a Hadith by Al-Bukhari considered authentic?
Whenever it exhorts the Prophet and Islamic scientific claims.
So when is a Hadith by Al-Bukhari not considered authentic?
Whenever it disproves the Prophet’s mannerisms and Islam’s dubious claims.

Got it.

So if a ring fell into the toilet bowl, should we dip it again just to make sure it comes out more hygienic than before? How does this work?

 

[swariffin]

Hamas TV Scientist Dr. Ahmad Al-Muzain: Bayer Invented Its Cure for AIDS on the Basis of a Hadith by Prophet Muhammad about the Wings of Flies

memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/1889.htm

Following are excerpts from a program featuring Dr. Ahmad Al-Muzain, a Palestinian expert on Koranic science, which aired on Al-Aqsa TV on September 19, 2008:

	  **Quote:** 	 	 	  Ahmad Al-Muzain: The Prophet Muhammad said: "If a fly falls into your drink, you should dip it in the drink, and then dispose of the fly, because one of its wings bears a disease, and the other wing bears the cure." This hadith was included in the Al-Bukhari collection. This hadith makes it absolutely clear that the Prophet Muhammad confirmed a clear scientific fact: If a fly falls into a vessel – before a person drinks from this vessel, he should dip the fly in his drink, before disposing of it. Then he should drink the beverage, because it won't do him any harm. Why? Because one of the fly's wings bears the disease, and the other one bears the cure.

This is unbelievable!

Dear Mugen One,

An ancient Chinese believe from Confucianism era (thousands of years prior to Muhammad) said that “the cure of the most poisonous plant, is located somewhere nearby such plant.” Muhammad have mentioned somewhere in Quran that you must learn as much as possible, even to the land of China.

Yes, in this case, Muhammad has better geographical knowledge than those writers of the bible, since the name “China” has never been mentioned in the bible.

 

[MugenOne]

For the ancient Chinese belief, that is true. Poisonous plant and its cure are normally c-existing side by side. We are talking about a fly here. Plus, HIV (AIDS) is an RNA virus. “Antibiotics” do not work on AIDS only antiretroviral therapies.

Dear Mugen One,

An ancient Chinese believe from Confucianism era (thousands of years prior to Muhammad) said that “the cure of the most poisonous plant, is located somewhere nearby such plant.” Muhammad have mentioned somewhere in Quran that you must learn as much as possible, even to the land of China.

Yes, in this case, Muhammad has better geographical knowledge than those writers of the bible, since the name “China” has never been mentioned in the bible.

 

[ralphinal]

For the ancient Chinese belief, that is true. Poisonous plant and its cure are normally c-existing side by side. We are talking about a fly here. Plus, HIV (AIDS) is an RNA virus. “Antibiotics” do not work on AIDS only antiretroviral therapies.

Show me the scientific data written in a scholarly journal with all needed citations and stats OR admit this is just a buch of junk.

And I be that you do neither one…

 

[MugenOne]

I don’t have evidence to back my claim, but this has been an Oriental medicinal practice for thousands of years.

Show me the scientific data written in a scholarly journal with all needed citations and stats OR admit this is just a buch of junk.

And I be that you do neither one…

 

[ralphinal]

I don’t have evidence to back my claim, but this has been an Oriental medicinal practice for thousands of years.

No, using fly wings to treat AIDS/HIV has not been used in Oriental Medicin for thousands of years.

“Redipping” to make things pure is crazy.

One wing being polluted and one being clean is crazy.

The old wives tale about poisonous plants growing near their cure may have some basis in fact. Most old wive’s tales do. However, I would not want to stake my life on it.

 

[Sam_777]

Muhammad have mentioned somewhere in Quran that you must learn as much as possible, even to the land of China.

Yes, in this case, Muhammad has better geographical knowledge than those writers of the bible, since the name “China” has never been mentioned in the bible.

:tsktsk: No fellow swariffin, China is not mentioned anywhere in Quran nor the 9 authentic sources of Hadith, even there is a Fatwa#13637 saying its a fake hadith.

 

[StMarina303ad]

Hamas TV Scientist Dr. Ahmad Al-Muzain: Bayer Invented Its Cure for AIDS on the Basis of a Hadith by Prophet Muhammad about the Wings of Flies

memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/1889.htm

Following are excerpts from a program featuring Dr. Ahmad Al-Muzain, a Palestinian expert on Koranic science, which aired on Al-Aqsa TV on September 19, 2008:

	  **Quote:** 	 	 	  Ahmad Al-Muzain: The Prophet Muhammad said: "If a fly falls into your drink, you should dip it in the drink, and then dispose of the fly, because one of its wings bears a disease, and the other wing bears the cure." This hadith was included in the Al-Bukhari collection. This hadith makes it absolutely clear that the Prophet Muhammad confirmed a clear scientific fact: If a fly falls into a vessel – before a person drinks from this vessel, he should dip the fly in his drink, before disposing of it. Then he should drink the beverage, because it won't do him any harm. Why? Because one of the fly's wings bears the disease, and the other one bears the cure.

This is unbelievable!

There is really a CURE for AIDS? Or is it just treatment for the symtoms? You’d think that if a true cure were found it would be all over the News every where.

 

[ralphinal]

There is really a CURE for AIDS? Or is it just treatment for the symtoms? You’d think that if a true cure were found it would be all over the News every where.

This is an excellent point that is lost on our Muslim brothers.

If it was a cure, one of two things would happen. Either it would be all over the news OR the drug companies would make sure it never got out.

 

[cathopologist]

There is really a CURE for AIDS? Or is it just treatment for the symtoms? You’d think that if a true cure were found it would be all over the News every where.

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Koranic Scientist: Bayer Invented Cure for AIDS on the Basis of Muhammad’s “Wings of Flies” Hadith

 

[Ruthie]

I Googled “AIDS cure” (as separate words, not a phrase) and found nothing relevant. If Bayer had come up with a cure, there would be at least a rumor.

At least we Christians do not treat our Bible as if everything in it was scientifically accurate. Otherwise, we’d be spreading mud and spit into blind people’s eyes in every hospital in the nation.

I’d rather swat a fly than dunk it. Yuck. Now I’m afraid to go to a doctor who might be Muslim. He or she might give me essence of fly wing. Gross! (Just kidding.)

God bless us all,

Ruthie

 

[swariffin]

For the ancient Chinese belief, that is true. Poisonous plant and its cure are normally c-existing side by side. We are talking about a fly here. Plus, HIV (AIDS) is an RNA virus. “Antibiotics” do not work on AIDS only antiretroviral therapies.

Dear brother,

Plant and fly indeed are different. But the idea is the same, can you see? Poison and cure are normally co-existing side by side. Now, wing of a fly carrying a virus also carry the cure on the other wing. That idea is similar to me. Dr. Ahmad was just re-telling an ancient Chinese belief long before Muhammad even been born.

 

[swariffin]

:tsktsk: No fellow swariffin, China is not mentioned anywhere in Quran nor the 9 authentic sources of Hadith, even there is a Fatwa#13637 saying its a fake hadith.

Dear brother,

My Hajj grandpa told me that even Muhammad tell his follower to study as far as to China. I don’t know because I never check. By year 600 AD, it is possible to me that even a nomaden tribe in the land of Arabia did know something about China.

 

[ralphinal]

I cannot see how a contaminate on one fly wing will not make it to the other.

Do you people know what flies eat? Where they live?

The whole insect is one big petrie dish of bacteria, viruses, and yuck.