Handholding-How long?

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It seems to be taken as fact that Handholding for the Our Father has been going on in the majority of parishes for 30 years.
How long has your parish been holding hands for the Our Father?
 
Mine is a cathedral parish. We do not hold hands but we can identify visitors to the parish by this practice. I don’t like it - particularly “the wave” aspect of it at the end. When I go to Mass elsewhere, I particularly dislike folks pawing at me when I have my hands folded in prayer. This is not in the rubrics, folks, contrary to popular belief.
 
Dont get the nonsesne at the Tridentine Mass I go to.

At the Cathedral I also go to, it doesent happen. I personally have never seen it over here, but im sure it goes on in places…
 
I voted 10-20 years. My parish is 18 years old and people have been holding hands since day one.

The previous parish had some handholding going on going back about 30 years but it typically only happened between family members and/or friends.
 
It seems like it’s been dying down in my area. 🙂 👍 :clapping:

Hopefully it will go away all together eventually.
 
Never. One priest in one of the local churches tried to encourage it once and it didn’t go down well at all. Haven’t been to a mass with him since but I’d imagine he hasn’t tried it again.

My parents parish interstate has been doing it for probably 5 or 6 years that I know of.
 
Some do it at my parish Church, not many.
I just fold my hands and bow my head.
They leave me alone.
 
Jabronie said:
It seems like it’s been dying down in my area. 🙂 👍 :clapping:

Hopefully it will go away all together eventually.
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Same here. Unfortunately the “universal orans,” which I believe is a real abuse, is not going away. The practice is abetted by our parish director who dons an alb and sits beside the celebrant at every Mass. She assumes the orans posture during the Our Father.

JSA
 
blackrobe said:
Same here. Unfortunately the “universal orans,” which I believe is a real abuse, is not going away. The practice is abetted by our parish director who dons an alb and sits beside the celebrant at every Mass. She assumes the orans posture during the Our Father.

JSA
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Actually, the Universal Orans seems to be the instruction given to the congregations to overcome the handholding. While I believe both are wrong, one must listen to one’s Bishop on this.
Hopefully, it will all right itself in the end. The Vatican needs to step in and give us clear direction on it.
 
blackrobe said:
Same here. Unfortunately the “universal orans,” which I believe is a real abuse, is not going away. The practice is abetted by our parish director who dons an alb and sits beside the celebrant at every Mass. She assumes the orans posture during the Our Father.

JSA
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And BTW, you may want to send your Parish Director a copy of this…
***ICP, Practical Provisions,***Article 6 Liturgical actions must always clearly manifest the unity of the People of God as a structured communion. Thus there exists a close link between the ordered exercise of liturgical action and the reflection in the liturgy of the Church’s structured nature.
This happens when all participants, with faith and devotion, discharge those roles proper to them.
To promote the proper identity (of various roles) in this area, those abuses which are contrary to the provisions of CIC/83 907 are to be eradicated. In Eucharistic celebrations, deacons and non-ordained members of the faithful may not pronounce prayers-e.g., especially the Eucharistic Prayer, with its concluding doxology-or any other parts of the Liturgy reserved to the celebrant Priest. Neither may deacons or non-ordained members of the faithful use gestures which are proper to the same priest celebrant. It is a grave abuse for any member of the non-ordained faithful to “quasi-preside” at the Mass while leaving only that minimal participation to the priest which is necessary to secure validity.
In the same way, the use of sacred vestments which are reserved to priests or deacons (stoles, chausible or dalmatics) at liturgical ceremonies by non-ordained members of the faithful is clearly unlawful.
 
Although I think if Jesus and Mary happen to appear in front of the Congregation and said we must hold hands. I would do it hesitantly but i would do it only then.😛
 
Atk_Aheeni said:
Although I think if Jesus and Mary happen to appear in front of the Congregation and said we must hold hands. I would do it hesitantly but i would do it only then.😛
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I would faint. The EMTs would be holding my hands.
 
blackrobe said:
Same here. Unfortunately the “universal orans,” which I believe is a real abuse, is not going away. The practice is abetted by our parish director who dons an alb and sits beside the celebrant at every Mass. She assumes the orans posture during the Our Father.

JSA
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She needs to read some C. S. Lewis. He names pride as the greatest sin. (Of course, I probably shouldn’t be judging :whistle: )
 
netmil(name removed by moderator) said:
And BTW, you may want to send your Parish Director a copy of this…
***ICP, Practical Provisions,***Article 6 Liturgical actions must always clearly manifest the unity of the People of God as a structured communion. Thus there exists a close link between the ordered exercise of liturgical action and the reflection in the liturgy of the Church’s structured nature.
This happens when all participants, with faith and devotion, discharge those roles proper to them.
To promote the proper identity (of various roles) in this area, those abuses which are contrary to the provisions of CIC/83 907 are to be eradicated. In Eucharistic celebrations, deacons and non-ordained members of the faithful may not pronounce prayers-e.g., especially the Eucharistic Prayer, with its concluding doxology-or any other parts of the Liturgy reserved to the celebrant Priest. Neither may deacons or non-ordained members of the faithful use gestures which are proper to the same priest celebrant. It is a grave abuse for any member of the non-ordained faithful to “quasi-preside” at the Mass while leaving only that minimal participation to the priest which is necessary to secure validity.
In the same way, the use of sacred vestments which are reserved to priests or deacons (stoles, chausible or dalmatics) at liturgical ceremonies by non-ordained members of the faithful is clearly unlawful.
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Well, seeing as she sometimes gives the homily as well, I doubt she’ll be impressed.

JSA
 
My current parish doesn’t do this, but I first saw it start in South Texas around 1990 or so.
 
cecilia97 said:
My current parish doesn’t do this, but I first saw it start in South Texas around 1990 or so.
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I too first saw it in South Texas around 1988 or thereabouts. It was one of the innovations brought forth by my good friends The Sisters of The Most Precious Blood:eek: , along with no altar cloths, not necessary as Christ didn’t use them, a folding card table for the altar, noble simplicity, corn tortillas for communion, food of the people, females, normally the Sisters giving the sermons(homily) , and also Sisters consecrating the hosts, after all we’re all the same in the eyes of the Lord and male only ordination is an affront to the Father, denying Holy Communion to US Government employees, after all they were racists and necessarily evil and obviously unworthy to receive and anyone else who disagreed with them, etc etc etc.

Handholding and the orans are both widespread in southern California but then so is standing during the consecratation in some churches there.
 
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