Handling anti-Catholic bigotry online or in person

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I’ve yet to meet a Catholic that ‘‘hates’’ Protestants. Only place I’ve seen that is on the interwebs.
 
If you want to defend the catholic version of the Gospel of Jesus. You have to educate your self. On the differences .

and the additions to the Gospel by catholic traditions.

Fundamental Christians . don’t have the additional traditions taught by other group’s.

Jesus said his deciples would have signs following.
And saint Paul described some of these “signs”
As the 9 ministry gifts empowered by the holy spirit.
1cor 2 he said i came with the power of the holy spirit.

Not just quoting scripture of man’s wisdom. And understand ing.

Memorizing and quoting scripture. Is only one way. Of man’s wisdom
 
The anger you feel is righteous indignation when encountering people influenced by the demons to blaspheme the Truth.

One of our greatest Saints, the real man behind Santa Claus, is the great miracle worker St. Nicholas of Myra.

St. Nicholas was in attendance at the First Ecumenical Council of Nicea.

The Heresiarch Arius was there spewing vile deceptive heresies, degrading the Mother of God, and spitting in the face of Jesus.

The Holy Nicholas was so filled with righteous indignation, that he leapt at Arius and punched his lights out.

The Council Fathers were enraged that Nicholas lost his temper in the presence of the Emperor and the Holy Spirit.

So they stripped Nicholas of his vestments and threw him in jail.

Later that night in prison, Jesus and the Blessed Virgin appeared to Nicholas and said: “Nicholas, why are you imprisoned?” And the saint replied: “For loving You”. Christ then said to him: “Take this,” and gave him the holy gospel; the Holy Mother Theotokos gave him the archpriestly omophorion (scapular). The next day some acquaintances of his brought him bread and they saw that he was freed of his fetters and on his shoulder he was wearing the omophorion, while reading the holy gospel he was holding in his hands. Having asked him where he found them, he told them the whole truth. Having learnt of this, the king took him out of the prison and asked for forgiveness, as did all the others. After the dissolution of the council, all the archpriests returned home, as did saint Nicholas, to his province.

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I’m not advocating that you go around breaking heretics jaws. I’m saying don’t feel ashamed or confused that you get angry over this stuff. It shows your zeal for the Gospel. Just try to imitate the incredible patience of Our Lord - he was always cool, calm, and collected. Almost. Except the time he whipped the moneychangers and destroyed their business while screaming at them and chasing them out of the Temple.
 
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I think most main line Protestants do not hate Catholic’s. They might not know much about Catholic’s and what they believe but they don’t hate. That being said its more the fringe groups of Christians who have the idea that all Catholic’s and the Catholic Church are against the bible and what it contains. its really a matter of what they have been taught about Catholic’s.
 
Pray to the Holy Spirit for guidance. And don’t let it affect your health. If it does, it’s time to get offline. (Personal experience.)
 
I always say Protestants exist on a spectrum, a sliding scale if you will.

On the right you have the high Church pseudo-Catholics. Certain Anglicans, Episcopalians, Lutherans. These are closest to Catholic thought and are usually very friendly to Catholics.

Towards the middle you have mainline run of the mill Protestants. Congregationals, Methodists, Presbyterians, certain Lutherans, Episcopalian, traditional Baptists, etc. These are usually neutral or indifferent, more often friendly, very occasionally hostile to the Catholic Church.

Then farther to the left the trouble begins. Here is where you find certain Fundamentalist, Evangelical, Pentecostal, “independent” Baptist, “non denom”, Adventists, etc. These often have teachings which are integral parts of their belief system - like SDA and the anti-Catholic teachings contained therein. This left-side spectrum of Protestants is where you will find the rabid anti-Catholics.

My point? Don’t lump all the worlds 750,000,000 Protestants together with those anti-Catholic Protestants who exist at the far end of the spectrum.

My estimate is less than 100,000,000 of the world’s Protestants fall into that category. So the vast, VAST majority are not anti-Catholic bigots. Only a small, very vocal, very vicious minority are severe anti-Catholics. In modern America, the anti-Catholic type Protestants are a pretty large, very powerful, very wealthy, and therefore very visible presence. So much so that here in the States it can seem as though they are the only Protestants who exist. But I assure you Protestants in Norway and Sweden would disagree!
 
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The Catholics on this board are far more concerned about lukewarmness and evangelization than the average folks in the pews. I’m not saying it’s good or bad (except when it crosses the bigotry line) but we’re kind of a self-selecting bunch on here and in general everybody who posts here is way more interested and involved in their faith than average.
 
The one was probably the extreme vocal minority I’ve met, if we’re going all the way to “hate”.

The interwebz point is fair, everyone is 10ft tall behind the keyboard.
 
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Thnk u spina i understand and i totally agree. Many do not think we are even Christians…hard to have a conversation from that viewpoint. Thnx again. ❤️
 
Thnk u so much for posting that! I truly appreciate that. ❤️ it was extremely informative.
 
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I always say Protestants exist on a spectrum, a sliding scale if you will.

On the right you have the high Church pseudo-Catholics. Certain Anglicans, Episcopalians, Lutherans. These are closest to Catholic thought and are usually very friendly to Catholics.

Towards the middle you have mainline run of the mill Protestants. Congregationals, Methodists, Presbyterians, certain Lutherans, Episcopalian, traditional Baptists, etc. These are usually neutral or indifferent, more often friendly, very occasionally hostile to the Catholic Church.

Then farther to the left the trouble begins. Here is where you find certain Fundamentalist, Evangelical, Pentecostal, “independent” Baptist, “non denom”, Adventists, etc. These often have teachings which are integral parts of their belief system - like SDA and the anti-Catholic teachings contained therein. This left-side spectrum of Protestants is where you will find the rabid anti-Catholics.

My point? Don’t lump all the worlds 750,000,000 Protestants together with those anti-Catholic Protestants who exist at the far end of the spectrum.

My estimate is less than 100,000,000 of the world’s Protestants fall into that category. So the vast, VAST majority are not anti-Catholic bigots. Only a small, very vocal, very vicious minority are severe anti-Catholics. In modern America, the anti-Catholic type Protestants are a pretty large, very powerful, very wealthy, and therefore very visible presence. So much so that here in the States it can seem as though they are the only Protestants who exist. But I assure you Protestants in Norway and Sweden would disagree!
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I don’t disagree with you, but I would say that is where you CAN find rabid non-Catholics, not will find them. I’m non-denom and was not raised anti-Catholic, rather that we’re all Christians. I didn’t know of such vitriol between “protestants” and Catholics until recently.
 
That’s what I meant, not that it’s a monolithic rule.

Even in the most anti-Catholic sects (like the SDA) there are charitable people who do not subscribe to the anti-Catholic bigotry they are taught.

May I ask why you put protestant in quotes? If you’re a validly baptized Christian who is not Orthodox or Catholic, you are a Protestant.

All the worlds 2,300,000,000 Christians fall into one of three Categories: Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant.

Under Catholic we have canonical Roman Catholics, Eastern Catholics, and noncanonical catholic groups like Old Catholics, SSPX, etc.

Under Orthodox we have the canonical Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and Assyrians, along with the noncanonical breakaway orthodox groups like Russian old believers, Greek old calendarists, etc.

Under Protestant we have all other validly baptized Christians who are not Catholic/Orthodox. Methodists, Presbyterians, Evangelicals, Lutherans, Anglicans, Episcopalians, Baptists, non-denominational, Bible-only, Pentecostals, etc. These groups ALL have one thing in common - they can trace their roots back to the 16th century or more recent movements.

So if you identify as a non-denominational Christian, you are in the Protestant Christian category. Either that or non-Christian.

Nondenominational is a modern American thing, and it’s a misnomer. The only true non-denominational Church is the Catholic Church. All other churches are denominations that broke away from the Catholic Church at some point in the past.

I suppose if you wanted to you could create a fourth category: pseudo-Christians. These would be those who self profess being Christian, but whos beliefs put them outside mainstream Judeo-Christian reckoning. These groups could include Christadelphians, Jehovas Witnesses, Mormons, Salvation Army, Seventh Day Adventists, etc. You could probably lump certain non-denoms in with this category.

Personally, if I was non-denom, I’d much rather be classed together with other Protestant Christians than with the pseudo-Christians.
 
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I correct them where I can. For example, I saw an article today claiming that Pope Francis said heaven and hell don’t exist. I expect fundamentalists to latch onto that, so if I see it posted by someone who believes it, I’m prepared to ask them such questions as, “Why do you believe it?”, “Is anyone else reporting it?”

Oftentimes, you don’t need answers. You just need to have the right questions. If you can get them to really think about one of their beliefs, they might just apply that experience to their other beliefs.
 
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Spyridon said:
Then farther to the left the trouble begins. Here is where you find certain Fundamentalist, Evangelical, Pentecostal, “independent” Baptist, “non denom”, Adventists, etc. These often have teachings which are integral parts of their belief system - like SDA and the anti-Catholic teachings contained therein. This left-side spectrum of Protestants is where you will find the rabid anti-Catholics.
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In my personal experience with online anti-Catholics, a few groups really stand out: Jehovah’s Witnesses, “Bible-believing Christians” who go to a “Bible-believing church”, and ex-Catholics. I find it funny that the JW’s will never identify themselves as such. They obfuscate all over the place when asked to what denomination they belong.

They will tell you they “don’t belong to a church/religion” and they pepper their comments with words and phrases like “God’s Kingdom” and “system of things”. They call each other "sister"and “brother” and seem to spend a lot of time referencing the Old Testament. When you catch on to their lingo, you can pick them out of a crowd. They really hate it when you do that. They seem to enjoy remaining in disguise.
 
Well you have not been here for that long.

You will see it can go both ways.
 
Is it our job to defend the Church? Just wondering. If so, where is that cited?
 
…Because Ive been a member of Christian Forums for a while now, under a different username, and I always tell people there that since the pope does not “defend” the Church, that neither do I defend the Church.

Is this right or wrong?
 
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