Hands or above wrist?

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I visited Dr. and Mrs. Whanger at their home in Durham, NC about 30 years agp. I saw with my own eyes the photos of the ancient coins that were used in burials to keep the deceased’s eyes shut. With polarized technique photography, they showed up._______________________________________________________________

**Research by Dr. and Mrs. Whanger **
(from an article in a Duke educational website).
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Studies on the Shroud of Turin by Dr. Alan and Mrs. Mary Whanger have been underway in Durham, North Carolina since 1979. Dr. Whanger is Professor Emeritus at Duke University Medical Center and is skilled in photography and video. The Whangers were challenged to find a method of performing “exacting comparisons” between the face of the Man of the Shroud and the faces of early icons and other images. In 1981, they developed a polarized image overlay technique in which two images are projected one on top of the other and exactly aligned onto the same screen through polarizing filters at right angles one to the other. When viewed through a third rotating polarized filter, the two images fade one into the other allowing detailed observation and analysis of the congruencies, similarities, and dissimilarities of the two images. This method reveals that the Shroud face image was used extensively and accurately as the basis of artistic depictions of Jesus as early as the 3rd Century and consistently from the 6th Century onward.

Since 1981, the Whangers have conducted extensive examinations of a number of life size, very high grade photographs from those taken in 1931 by Enrie. At first look, the obvious features of the Shroud are the front and back body images; several blood stains; and a series of patches, scorches, and water stains resulting from a fire in 1532.

On closer examination, the Whangers have found that there are images of many objects in addition to those of the body, and that these images show evidence of electron coronal discharge radiation. These additional objects include a crucifixion nail, a Roman spear, a sponge on a stick, a crown of thorns, two scourges, a large hammer, a pair of pliers, and two desecrated Jewish phylacteries or prayer boxes. All are consistent with 1st Century objects, with Roman crucifixions of Jews, with Jewish burial practices, and/or with Biblical accounts of the Crucifixion of Jesus.

Several findings of the Whangers show the origin of the Shroud images to be from Israel in the spring of AD 30. Evidence for this includes the images of large numbers of flowers banked around the body. The Whangers have identified 28 species, 20 of which grow in Jerusalem and the other 8 within 12 miles of Jerusalem, with a common blooming time of March and April. The pollens of 25 of these have been independently identified by Dr. Max Frei, a Swiss criminalist and botanist, as being present on the Shroud from sticky tape samples that he took in 1973 and 1978. Visible over each eye are detailed images of two different lepton coins (widows mites) of Pontius Pilate, each dated AD 29. Some statues in the Middle East are based on the Shroud face image, the earliest dated AD 31.

Examination of a three dimensional enhancement of the face reveals the underlying skeletal structures, including the eye sockets, nasal bones, sinuses, and about 20 teeth, showing that the Shroud image is in part an autoradiograph.

There are many intriguing faint images on the Shroud; which, through additional investigation, could further establish the Shroud as the most amazing archaeological artifact in existence. This could also greatly facilitate adequate, but much needed, conservation measures.

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I visited Dr. and Mrs. Whanger at their home in Durham, NC about 30 years agp. I saw with my own eyes the photos of the ancient coins that were used in burials to keep the deceased’s eyes shut. With polarized technique photography, they showed up._______________________________________________________________

**Research by Dr. and Mrs. Whanger **
(from an article in a Duke educational website).
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Studies on the Shroud of Turin by Dr. Alan and Mrs. Mary Whanger have been underway in Durham, North Carolina since 1979. Dr. Whanger is Professor Emeritus at Duke University Medical Center and is skilled in photography and video. The Whangers were challenged to find a method of performing “exacting comparisons” between the face of the Man of the Shroud and the faces of early icons and other images. In 1981, they developed a polarized image overlay technique in which two images are projected one on top of the other and exactly aligned onto the same screen through polarizing filters at right angles one to the other. When viewed through a third rotating polarized filter, the two images fade one into the other allowing detailed observation and analysis of the congruencies, similarities, and dissimilarities of the two images. This method reveals that the Shroud face image was used extensively and accurately as the basis of artistic depictions of Jesus as early as the 3rd Century and consistently from the 6th Century onward.

Since 1981, the Whangers have conducted extensive examinations of a number of life size, very high grade photographs from those taken in 1931 by Enrie. At first look, the obvious features of the Shroud are the front and back body images; several blood stains; and a series of patches, scorches, and water stains resulting from a fire in 1532.

On closer examination, the Whangers have found that there are images of many objects in addition to those of the body, and that these images show evidence of electron coronal discharge radiation. These additional objects include a crucifixion nail, a Roman spear, a sponge on a stick, a crown of thorns, two scourges, a large hammer, a pair of pliers, and two desecrated Jewish phylacteries or prayer boxes. All are consistent with 1st Century objects, with Roman crucifixions of Jews, with Jewish burial practices, and/or with Biblical accounts of the Crucifixion of Jesus.

Several findings of the Whangers show the origin of the Shroud images to be from Israel in the spring of AD 30. Evidence for this includes the images of large numbers of flowers banked around the body. The Whangers have identified 28 species, 20 of which grow in Jerusalem and the other 8 within 12 miles of Jerusalem, with a common blooming time of March and April. The pollens of 25 of these have been independently identified by Dr. Max Frei, a Swiss criminalist and botanist, as being present on the Shroud from sticky tape samples that he took in 1973 and 1978. Visible over each eye are detailed images of two different lepton coins (widows mites) of Pontius Pilate, each dated AD 29. Some statues in the Middle East are based on the Shroud face image, the earliest dated AD 31.

Examination of a three dimensional enhancement of the face reveals the underlying skeletal structures, including the eye sockets, nasal bones, sinuses, and about 20 teeth, showing that the Shroud image is in part an autoradiograph.

There are many intriguing faint images on the Shroud; which, through additional investigation, could further establish the Shroud as the most amazing archaeological artifact in existence. This could also greatly facilitate adequate, but much needed, conservation measures.

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Be great to see some pics of these. Nice info
 
Hello all,

A friend and I have been discussing whether the nails were driven through Jesus’ hands or above the wrist. I saw a study many years back that showed it could not have been through the hands, for the weight of the body would cause the nail to tear through the hand. So I just figured they would have just used rope to help support the weight, while still causing as much pain as possible. My friend suggests the nail was driven right between the two arm bones right above the wrist. It would certainly hold the weight of the body. Makes perfect sense. I thought maybe in the translation to Latin, maybe there was no word to distinguish between forearm and hand. Like Jesus’ ‘brethren’ were His cousins, not his actual ‘brothers’. But then I look to those who had the Stigmata. I have seen on Padre Pio, that the wound is clearly on his hand. But then I look at the Shroud of Turin, and it shows the wounds to almost look as if they are on the wrists. At least that is how it looks to me (I’m a desk jockey, not a doctor). I thought maybe the nails were at an angle, in the hands and through the wrists. But that wouldn’t work as we must remember that not a bone of Jesus was broken. Again, I am no doctor, but it seems that even a large nail through the hand would break one of those small bones.

Any information and enlightenment would be most appreciated.

Thank you,

Shane
according to the the scientists who examined the shroud of turin the answer is both .

God blesss
 
Thank you Ajecphotos - (re post yesterday about 2pm)

For a very technically detailed article about the coins on the eyes of the Man on the Shroud,
please see:

ohioshroudconference.com/papers/p20.pdf

The title of the undated article “Shroud coin dating by Image Extraction” by Dr. T. Oommen, is from the Ohio Shroud Conference.

I cannot copy/paste the text nor the images as the article is in PDF.

But please any readers interested in the excellent photographic work by Dr. and Mrs. Whanger at Duke, see pages 2-3 of the article.
 
Thank you Wizard. Awesome site.

I highly recommend the PDF “A Critical Summary of Observations, Data and Hypotheses” under the “shroud data” tab. Very good info. Most comprehensive info I have yet seen.

Shane
 
Very fascinating! Especially the simple way they present the various theories and then the scientific proof of authenticity.
 
From section 34 of the encyclical LUMEN FIDEI by Pope Francis:

“Nor is the light of faith, joined to the truth of love, extraneous to the material world, for love is always lived out in body and spirit; the light of faith is an incarnate light radiating from the luminous life of Jesus. It also illumines the material world, trusts its inherent order and knows that it calls us to an ever widening path of harmony and understanding. The gaze of science thus benefits from faith: faith encourages the scientist to remain constantly open to reality in all its inexhaustible richness. Faith awakens the critical sense by preventing research from being satisfied with its own formulae and helps it to realize that nature is always greater. By stimulating wonder before the profound mystery of creation, faith broadens the horizons of reason to shed greater light on the world which discloses itself to scientific investigation.”​

This scientific search that we are on with study of the Shroud will reveal how the Image of the Son of God was permanently recorded for all to see through—
LUMEN FIDEI = LIGHT OF FAITH
 
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