Happy 100th birthday, Thomas Merton

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Just in case this hasn’t been posted (Father Robert Barron’s take on Father Merton):

HERE.

Truly an eyeopener (at least for me).👍
I had not read this from Fr. Barron yet. Thanks so much for posting! I still haven’t read The Sign of Jonas yet either. Its on my (very long) to-read list :).
 
John/coalcracker, thanks for the suggestion of Father Anthony Ciorra’s book. I hope your retreat is fruitful.

Jim, I agree that Merton is more accessible than either St John of the Cross or St Teresa of Avila, but in the context of Gertabelle saying she would rather read them than Merton I was encouraging her to start a thread where she could share links and make a positive contribution. I came to St John of the Cross via the books of the Carmelite Ruth Burrows when my then spiritual director saw I needed to move away from the Ignatian method of active contemplation. There are some great commentaries available now on the * Spiritual Canticle *as well as the Ascent of Mount Carmel or Living Flame of Love.
 
Looking back, I can see I got defensive and became dismissive over Gertabelle’s posts in this thread. Actually, her posts opened the door for Jim to offer his rebuttal to the CAF article about Merton, and for Luigi to post the more positive opinions of Fr. Barron. So I need to thank Gertabelle for keeping the conversation going, providing an opportunity for some clarification, and hopefully she is still checking this thread to see this.
 
This thread has been quite amazing, to say the least.

As I stated in my first post, the only people I’d ever known who liked or talked about Merton were the religious priests and staff at my university parish. They not only openly challenged the magisterium and Church dogmas, they also encouraged us college students to do whatever felt right to us. Sometime after my graduation in 1994, the archdiocese took over that parish and sent the religious priests packing.

I had a very knee-jerk reaction to Merton being celebrated on this site, because I unfairly equated him with people who were committed to changing the Church from the bottom up to suit their needs, and persuade as many young (and older) people along the way.

Yes, I found articles that argued against Merton, and I also read what you all had to say (strangers to me, so not as trusted as the other authors I found – sorry :().

But I kept searching and asking because of most of your posts. I finally turned to my friend’s husband – one of the most faithful and intelligent Catholic men I know. His home library is extraordinary…

Anyway, he sent me the link to Fr. Barron’s article/blog about Merton. I guess I just needed to hear from a source I trust absolutely that Merton is worth reading to realize that my extreme bias against him is unfairly linked to my life-changing (nearly Life-destroying) encounter with his admirers in college. Well, I’m not going to put Merton at the top of my reading list – it may take a lifetime to get through my current list – but I will no longer be looking with suspicion at those who read his works or recommend them.

Point is, I now believe I was wrong about Merton, and I am sorry if my comments were inappropriate here or unkind to any of you all. Please forgive me any harm I may have done.

God bless you!

Gertie
 
So glad to read this, Gertabelle, because very often I find a fear-based kneejerk from people who are afraid to read major Catholic thinkers and writers in case they absorb something unorthodox. It is so important to read the sources themselves rather than opinions about them or the cherrypicking of controversial or conservative quotations from their works.

There is nothing wrong with reading more Traditional or conservative theologians, but I find it helpful to read those writers themselves rather than often polemical or glib commentaries on them. That said, many older papal encyclicals are hard to understand, as is the work of European theologians like Roman Guardini, Dom Gueranger or even Karl Adam. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, guidance may be needed in order to begin reading Teresa of Avila or St John of the Cross. But the rewards are so worth the effort.

Blessings

Mary
 
Sometimes we need to remind ourselves that life is not binary, and that just because someone loses or misunderstands the faith does not mean that what they wrote prior to losing it is worthless as a result. Note that this is absolutely not the case with Thomas Merton; he kept the faith right until the end. That he dialogued with other religions is part and and parcel of the monastic orders’ desire to be 100% obedient to the Holy Father (Paul VI a the time) who desired that the Church explore ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue.

But getting back to my binary thinking notion, a case in point is Origen. He has never been declared a saint, and some of his later writings were very controversial at the time and St. Jerome pretty much considered him a heretic.

Yet the Church still considers him an early Church father, and includes many of his writings in the lectionary for the Office of Readings in the Liturgy of the Hours.

We are all human and thus are not perfect. Not even the saints were perfect throughout their entire lives.
 
So glad to read this, Gertabelle, because very often I find a fear-based kneejerk from people who are afraid to read major Catholic thinkers and writers in case they absorb something unorthodox.** It is so important to read the sources themselves rather than opinions** about them or the cherrypicking of controversial or conservative quotations from their works.
Well, I simply don’t agree with your ideas on reading the sources rather than seeking opinions.

There are quite a few authors I’m not going to read, because life is finite, and I’m going to spend my limited time reading what I deem needful (whether that be St. John of the Cross or Bob Marzano) or enjoyable (whether that be Tolkein or Riordan) – and those decisions are often based on the opinions of others.

Good heavens, there’s not enough time in several lifetimes to read even just the back covers or table of contents in every book in order to choose which books to read! The opinions of others can be an extremely valuable tool, and not one I’m likely to shrug off because some stranger on the internet made insinuations against my character a few times when I didn’t agree with her opinion.
There is nothing wrong with reading more Traditional or conservative theologians, but I find it helpful to read those writers themselves rather than often polemical or glib commentaries on them. That said, many older papal encyclicals are hard to understand, as is the work of European theologians like Roman Guardini, Dom Gueranger or even Karl Adam. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, guidance may be needed in order to begin reading Teresa of Avila or St John of the Cross. But the rewards are so worth the effort.
Not sure I’m following your line of thought here. I suppose some guidance to understanding the Doctors of the Church could be very useful. Certainly a commentary on the Summa Theologica, for example, would help to map out the deeper meanings of the work, or gain a more cohesive understanding of it. On the other hand, I also have enjoyed reading it “cold” (i.e., without guidance) because, well, it’s the Summa!

Personally, I’ve found St. John of the Cross very accessible, as well as St. Teresa of Avila. But then, my years in the monastery may have inclined me to have a certain affinity with their meanings. Or maybe that’s just how God wants to speak to me, so He’s granted me the grace to understand. 🤷 Anyway, I’ve never really considered reading someone else’s commentaries on them… but I can certainly understand the benefit of doing so if someone feels so inclined.

God bless you!

Gertie
 
Gertabelle, we seem to be talking at cross-purposes.

Go well –
 
There are quite a few authors I’m not going to read, because life is finite, and I’m going to spend my limited time reading what I deem needful (whether that be St. John of the Cross or Bob Marzano) or enjoyable (whether that be Tolkein or Riordan) – and those decisions are often based on the opinions of others.
I agree but then we have to be carefu about those other opinions. One thing i like about Amazon book reviews is that one can see the likes and dislikes.
 
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