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Syele
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LOL@ Bingo jokes… nope, no bingo there.
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Allweather
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It must be a regional thing. When I lived in New York I saw bingo signs outside a lot of Catholic churches. When I started converting, my fundamentalist friends would poke fun at me about it. After a few years I moved to New Mexico, and out here I have never seen any bingo in any Catholic church, and I’ve been in a couple of dozen of them here in the Albuquerque and Santa Fe areas.
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Lion
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Are you serious?!?!?!?!?!?!
I would’ve left and driven to the next closest CATHOLIC Church!
That is just bizarre!!!
I feel sorry that you were subjected to that
YES! REVERENCE!
I personally am not looking for entertainment when I go to Mass… but then again I’m old and did not grow up with Barney and a short attention span
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Syele
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This explains alot. I have mostly lived in New Mexico and Texas, didn’t even know Catholics liked Bingo!
(As a side note, the church I used to attend (left cause I moved to a new town) is currently dismayed that a Bingo Hall opened next door and it’s sign looks like it’s pointing at the church… “
Gambling!!” lol
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lak611
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There is a Lutheran Church in a Cleveland suburb that has bingo too, so I guess it is a regional thing. I’m not fond of Churches having bingo myself, and my Church doesn’t have it.This explains alot. I have mostly lived in New Mexico and Texas, didn’t even know Catholics liked Bingo!
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ALLFORHIM
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Hi,
You may be right. You know how liberal and democratic the east coast is. I did love to play bingo. I dont play anymore because it is gambling and I dont want to sin. This is actually one sin I CAN stay away from without a problem
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McKevin
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Merry Christmas! I realize I’m jumping in late on this one…but as a former holiness-protestant and current Roman Catholic I’d like to share my thoughts on the :clapping: happy-clappy :clapping: camp:
There are a lot of reasons that I prefer the sacred and holy Mass…but knowing a good deal of protestants in my metro-area and having a dad who is still a holiness preacher, I can tell you that the many :clapping: “happy-clappy” :clapping: protestants that I know very well look forward to their services with just as much zeal that I have in attending Mass. They also are good and reverent in their worship and they get a lot out of their style of worship - a lot more than witnessing a stage production. Do my :clapping: happy-clappy :clapping: friends honor God? You bet they do! I can tell you, because I’ve know these people for 30+ years, that they genuinely love and serve God with heart-felt :dancing: emotion! :dancing:
At my parish, we will occasionally interrupt the priest with applause during his homily and clap and lift hands during the song of dismissal. But those times of reverent quiet kneeling prayer and adoration before Mass, and during Eucharist have got to be the holiest moments that this former holiness-protestant ever has participated in.
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JoeyWarren
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Happy-Clappy?
What is the real question?
Maybe this is it:
How would Protestants conduct themselves if at the beginning of the service, God came down form Heaven at the start of the service, would they conduct the same Happy Clappy service or would they conduct themselves within the Awe, Reverance, and Fear of the Lord aspect? Would the Protestant fall down prostrate with Awe, Reverance, and Fear or would they break out in a Happy-Clappy song?
How does a Catholic conduct himself…?
Why conduct yourself any different then you would in Heaven at the foot of the throne of God.
IMHO, I see a Catholic Service closer to what one would expect to see and experience in Heaven.
What is the real question?
Maybe this is it:
How would Protestants conduct themselves if at the beginning of the service, God came down form Heaven at the start of the service, would they conduct the same Happy Clappy service or would they conduct themselves within the Awe, Reverance, and Fear of the Lord aspect? Would the Protestant fall down prostrate with Awe, Reverance, and Fear or would they break out in a Happy-Clappy song?
How does a Catholic conduct himself…?
Why conduct yourself any different then you would in Heaven at the foot of the throne of God.
IMHO, I see a Catholic Service closer to what one would expect to see and experience in Heaven.
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JoeyWarren
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McKevin, I too am an ex-holiness and ex-pentecostal…
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codesmith
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This article may be of interest…
Musicians in Catholic Worship
Bells and Whistles, Guitars and Tambourines
Quoting – “If it sounds like a Broadway ballad, it belongs on Broadway, not the altar. If it sounds like a “golden oldie”, sing it at home. If it stirs feelings of a non-sacred nature, it does not belong in a sacred place. If sounds like a rock group or a mariachi band, then it may be fine for entertainment at the parish picnic or in the gym, but not at Mass, and not in the temple wherein the Sacrifice of Calvary is re-presented.”
adoremus.org/1003Music.html
Musicians in Catholic Worship
Bells and Whistles, Guitars and Tambourines
Quoting – “If it sounds like a Broadway ballad, it belongs on Broadway, not the altar. If it sounds like a “golden oldie”, sing it at home. If it stirs feelings of a non-sacred nature, it does not belong in a sacred place. If sounds like a rock group or a mariachi band, then it may be fine for entertainment at the parish picnic or in the gym, but not at Mass, and not in the temple wherein the Sacrifice of Calvary is re-presented.”
adoremus.org/1003Music.html
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myfavoritmartin
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The answer is simple do a NT word search on the words
JOY and Solemn joy somethiong like 97 times is used and solemn 0… Old testament it is about 50/50 as I recall… Christ is the reason for our Joy and should be worshipped and praised accordingly.
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runandsew
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When King David was before the Ark of the Covenant, he danced, sang and played music. God was very pleased with David for this. I would bet that it was the Holy Spirit that inspired King David to act this way in the presence of God.
And I would bet that Heaven will be extreme “Happy-Clappy”!!!
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rr1213
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I think Heaven will be ecstatically joyous without being Happy-Clappy. But I suppose we’ll just have to see…
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runandsew
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Maybe, but with all the Happy-Clappy christians that will be there, will they get new training on how to show their joy to God, without being so Happy-Clappy?
Maybe that is what purgatory is for, to burn off all that Happy-Clappiness before they enter Heaven.
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rr1213
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NiceMaybe, but with all the Happy-Clappy christians that will be there, will they get new training on how to show their joy to God, without being so Happy-Clappy?
Maybe that is what purgatory is for, to burn off all that Happy-Clappiness before they enter Heaven.
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lucybeebee
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But that was an entirely different situation. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is like being at the foot of the cross with the Blessed Virgin Mary and St. John. Would you play “happy clappy” music at an execution or a funeral? Only if you’re really trying to mock the victim or the deceased in question.
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runandsew
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opps, I just fully understood your comment so I need to re-edit a little here.
Yes we are at the foot of the cross , but it is also the risen glorified Lord that we recieve in the Eucharist
If that person that had died had wanted Happy-Clappy music played at his funeral Mass then I have no problem with it.
And as a Catholic, I don’t think I would be attending an execution. But If the Suni’s or Kurds in Iraq wanted to play Happy-Clappy music and dance around when Saddam was excuted, I would not have a problem with that after what they went through.
I personally don’t like that type of worship style, but others do. If my parish offered Happy-Clappy type of music at a certian Mass, I probably would not attend that Mass, but I am sure others would.
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Mariner1
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Hello everyone!
I am new here so I thought I would jump right in with a few comments of my own on the subject of Happy-Clappy Services from a bit of a different persective. I am a confessional Lutheran which means, according to many in my home parish and many other “Protestants” , I am “too catholic”! I have been taught to view worship differently in that it is not what we “do” but what we “receive” . In other words, it is God’s service to us in his Word and Sacraments and our response to those gifts is our thanks and praise. Because He is truly present in the Eucharist, I believe we should act in a devout, reverent, dignified manner and the worship should reflect that as well. If Christ were to stand before us in human form, would we be clapping and hand waving? I doubt it. We would be on our knees.
Just my two cents.
I am new here so I thought I would jump right in with a few comments of my own on the subject of Happy-Clappy Services from a bit of a different persective. I am a confessional Lutheran which means, according to many in my home parish and many other “Protestants” , I am “too catholic”! I have been taught to view worship differently in that it is not what we “do” but what we “receive” . In other words, it is God’s service to us in his Word and Sacraments and our response to those gifts is our thanks and praise. Because He is truly present in the Eucharist, I believe we should act in a devout, reverent, dignified manner and the worship should reflect that as well. If Christ were to stand before us in human form, would we be clapping and hand waving? I doubt it. We would be on our knees.
Just my two cents.
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Syele
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When Jesus rode in on a donkey on Palm Sunday people were being very loud and waving palm branches. Remember, It was the Pharasees that complained about it, Jesus said, they had to or the joy would be too much and the rocks would have to respond instead…
As I mentioned before there is a time to use all the emotions God has given us in our praise and worship to Him. Happy is definately an appropriate emotion at times.
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cheddarsox
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If the Bible is to be believed, certainly when they were greeting Christ with “Hossannah” and waving palms, happy-clappy seemed to be the order of the day. There was also a time Christ told a disciple not to bow before him and call him “good”. Other times…he was cool with being annointed, having a woman wash his feet with her hair, etc.
I honestly do beleive that many would greet Christ by waving, singing, and dancing, because I have seen this behavior when they were merely thinking about him being spiritually present among them.
There are times and places for all types of authentic human responses to the gift that Christ is.
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