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I hope India finds solace in the Church (although sadly I hear that it’s also influenced by the culture, just not as much). It would be awful if they flock to modern feminism, though expected.
 
I don’t have any proof except the news I’ve read, not having been there. I remember talking to my sister about travel, and mentioned that India seems like a beautiful place to visit. She was like, don’t ever go there, especially that I’m female.
 
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I don’t have any proof except the news I’ve read, not having been there. I remember talking to my sister about travel, and mentioned that India seems like a beautiful place to visit. She was like, don’t ever go there, especially that I’m female.
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Agreed, that is what I’ve heard of India for woman travellers. Again, I repeat that coming from this presumption about India I discovered that within the country itself there is just as much bias within the marriage laws as in the west, and even more. The laws are specifically gender biased against men. India has a highly developed favouritism for women which the western media ignores, in favour of the usual female “victim” narrative.

The danger to western women travelling in India is not sexism, but racism.
 
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These are just some links you can easily come across. It’s accurate and it’s pretty dumb to dismiss it as propaganda. I have some family members living there and they don’t even want us to come visit them, lol.

The blatant sexism has led to some laws that can be easily abused by women looking to retaliate, which I guess Edmundus is referring to. But again, it’s pretty dumb to assert that there isn’t sexism against women in India because of it. It is still a patriarchal society that even Republicans use to diss American feminism.

Like I said earlier, a presence of another problem doesn’t invalidate all the others. It just shows that India is broken in a different way.
 
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From what I read in the news, women in India have to deal with a lot of rape or sexual harassment, disproportionately higher than in other places. Both locals and foreign women have been subjected to these incidents.
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I also used to read a Protestant Indian doctor’s blog (Jeevan Kuruvilla) when he was blogging more actively, and he had a lot of material about the effect of boy preference on both girls and women in his rural area. A rural Indian woman might wind up with a botched blackmarket abortion at 30+ weeks if the baby was a girl. (And yes, it would be the family’s doing, because they didn’t want a girl.) Likewise, a family might be unwilling to spend money on a c-section for a laboring woman pregnant with a girl, while they’d be delighted to do so for a boy, even if both the woman’s life and the baby’s life were in danger from obstructed labor. Also, a mother who had too many girls in a row might be in danger of having her husband divorce her.

Here are a couple of posts from Jeevan:



It’s not just a question of sex-selection abortion, but also of ongoing preference for boys over girls and mothers of boys over mothers of girl in allotment of healthcare. There are a lot of families who are unwilling to invest in the welfare of girls, no matter how much suffering it causes girls or their mothers.

Indian men’s rights advocates are ridiculous.
 
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We have had several Indian priests in our parish. These have exhibited even more than the usual obedience to women. I can only assume they learned it in their culture. “Prove it”? Of course I can’t, but others in this thread have contributed hearsay evidence from their Indian priests and this is my hearsay response.
 
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We have had several Indian priests in our parish. These have exhibited even more than the usual obedience to women.
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Agreed. The two I knew were among the kindest and most courteous of people, to both sexes.
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I can only assume they learned it in their culture.
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As you yourself pointed out, India is a large country with a big population. What’s the cultural norm in one area may not be in another. I used to know what village one of my Indian priests was from and I never asked the other, but I do know that they occupied different stations in their caste system and that alone made their experiences very different.

Also, family and religion need to be taken into account. For example, in many parts of Asia the eldest son takes care of the parents. I live beside a Carmelite novitiate (hence the reason I come into contact with a ridiculous number of priests and religious) and there are more than a few who came from the Philippines or Vietnam, and chose to become religious despite being the eldest (and sometimes the only) son. But they were raised in families that loved God more than tradition - or they themselves chose to buck the system in favor of their personally held beliefs.
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Prove it”? Of course I can’t, but others in this thread have contributed hearsay evidence from their Indian priests and this is my hearsay response.
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Haha fair enough! I concede that as a stranger on the net, you can’t be expected to take my word regarding my priests’ experiences. But all things being equal, your documentary and photo don’t make you any more of an authority on India than do the articles the other posters provided. For you to be an authority over those news reports, you would have to go to India yourself to investigate. Short of actually going there, the next best thing is being descended from that culture, being raised with it, or having living relatives there who can testify. That makes the most credible voice on this thread by far Lea101.
 
It was also World Prayer Day. A lovely combination

This year worldprayer day was prepared for everyone globally by the women of Suriname.
 
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