Harry Potter Themepark -Okay?

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Thanks for all the tips! But I’d just like to put it out there that I’m a student going with my parentaparentsrelatives.
You have a Computer…research it yourself…and YES the Church has ALWAYS been against it.
and I find it hard to believe that. I go to a Catholic school headed by a Cistercian monk. A lot of the teachers are also Cistercian monks. If the Catholic Church was against HP, surely the books wouldn’t be allowed into our library, including an all-Latin version of the first one.

It wasn’t the books I was worried about, just the park. Thanks again guys!
 
Thanks for all the tips! But I’d just like to put it out there that I’m a student going with my parentaparentsrelatives.

and I find it hard to believe that. I go to a Catholic school headed by a Cistercian monk. A lot of the teachers are also Cistercian monks. If the Catholic Church was against HP, surely the books wouldn’t be allowed into our library, including an all-Latin version of the first one.

It wasn’t the books I was worried about, just the park. Thanks again guys!
Have FUN!!
 
BUT you made the claim…it’s your responsibility to provide the evidence supporting your claim. That’s how logical debate works:)
I think I can answer, but perhaps not to the satisfaction of the worried.

A few bishops have given negative reviews of the book. Some on the far right clung to these statements as gospel. While a fairly interesting debate was going on about the difference between encouraging imagination through fantastical stories, and encouraging approval of magic, a great number of Catholic leaders weighed in with very logical and substantial claims.

Pope Benedict himself made a statement, which was quite similar to Mr. Mark O’Malley’s post earlier in this discussion. He said that the lively imaginations of children in conjunction with unformed faith can make books like Harry Potter dangerous to them. That is a far cry from saying the books are inherently evil, and in any event, it was not an official position but an opinion. Certainly an opinion worth our consideration, though.

Lifesitenews.com headlined an article saying that Pope Benedict “opposes Harry Potter novels.” That hysterical article distorted a very level opinion into a very heavy weight on the side of those who would like to ban the books. Zenit, a more reliable source for Vatican news, issued a correction or sorts.

Then, the Vatican newpaper, which many incorrectly think is the voice of our Church, published a very positive review of the books. That lead the Potter apologists to cling to the newest headlines that the Vatican has OK’ed the books.

The truth, as near I can tell, is that the Church does not have an official position on the Harry Potter series, which is as one might expect. Whether or not a parent believes their child is mature enough to enjoy the fantasy as a fantasy is a matter for the parents, though they will find advice from all sides within the Church if they look.

My opinion is that the books were a delight for me to read as an adult. At some point, I will allow my children to read them. I will not be reading them to my children when they are young, as I will Tolkien and Lewis books.

There is a key difference between the fantasies. A human, in the writings of these faithful Christians, does not have powers. Some other species do- elves for instance. And perhaps that is magic. It is not something that a human can learn. In the Harry Potter books, the line is not so well defined. A “muggle” can learn to do magic, and well. It is a very different thing to say that there could possibly be other mysterious species who have different powers than we have as humans, than it is to say that humans have the potential to do magic. I do not see that as a fine line, but I do see it as a teachable line. (Even Cinderella, earlier cited, could not herself do magic. A fairy had to do it.) I believe that it is possible, and enjoyable, to read the books with a clear understanding that it crosses a line which, should it be crossed in reality rather than fantasy, would be immoral. Full disclosure: I let my daughter dress up as a fairy for Halloween.
 
Did you read the article? Or just search for anything that supports you?

How about this one:
You may remember that last year in another interview on Vatican Radio, Monsignor Peter Fleetwood, an expert on New Age and former official at the Pontifical Council for Culture said that:
…I remain firmly convinced that the Harry Potter novels are very well written. They are written on the classical plot of good versus evil in the standard way that the old myths were written. The characters are built up around that: the goodies and the baddies so to speak, and I can’t see that that’s a bad thing for children, when goodness, and the people on the side of goodness are portrayed as the ones who will eventually win. Harry’s enemies resort to all sorts of evil things, and they are the ones who loose in the end. I don’t see what’s wrong with that, and I can’t see that does any harm to children.
It would seem that personnel from the Vatican cannot agree on Harry Potter.
 
It’s Holy Thursday and the Triduum. Let’s take the time to reflect on being more charitable instead of arguing, regardless of what side of this issue you’re on.

Just a thought. 🙂
 
I think I can answer, but perhaps not to the satisfaction of the worried.

A few bishops have given negative reviews of the book. Some on the far right clung to these statements as gospel. While a fairly interesting debate was going on about the difference between encouraging imagination through fantastical stories, and encouraging approval of magic, a great number of Catholic leaders weighed in with very logical and substantial claims.

Pope Benedict himself made a statement, which was quite similar to Mr. Mark O’Malley’s post earlier in this discussion. He said that the lively imaginations of children in conjunction with unformed faith can make books like Harry Potter dangerous to them. That is a far cry from saying the books are inherently evil, and in any event, it was not an official position but an opinion. Certainly an opinion worth our consideration, though.

Lifesitenews.com headlined an article saying that Pope Benedict “opposes Harry Potter novels.” That hysterical article distorted a very level opinion into a very heavy weight on the side of those who would like to ban the books. Zenit, a more reliable source for Vatican news, issued a correction or sorts.

Then, the Vatican newpaper, which many incorrectly think is the voice of our Church, published a very positive review of the books. That lead the Potter apologists to cling to the newest headlines that the Vatican has OK’ed the books.

The truth, as near I can tell, is that the Church does not have an official position on the Harry Potter series, which is as one might expect. Whether or not a parent believes their child is mature enough to enjoy the fantasy as a fantasy is a matter for the parents, though they will find advice from all sides within the Church if they look.

My opinion is that the books were a delight for me to read as an adult. At some point, I will allow my children to read them. I will not be reading them to my children when they are young, as I will Tolkien and Lewis books.

There is a key difference between the fantasies. A human, in the writings of these faithful Christians, does not have powers. Some other species do- elves for instance. And perhaps that is magic. It is not something that a human can learn. In the Harry Potter books, the line is not so well defined. A “muggle” can learn to do magic, and well. It is a very different thing to say that there could possibly be other mysterious species who have different powers than we have as humans, than it is to say that humans have the potential to do magic. I do not see that as a fine line, but I do see it as a teachable line. (Even Cinderella, earlier cited, could not herself do magic. A fairy had to do it.) I believe that it is possible, and enjoyable, to read the books with a clear understanding that it crosses a line which, should it be crossed in reality rather than fantasy, would be immoral. Full disclosure: I let my daughter dress up as a fairy for Halloween.
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Who needs Harry Potter??? I’ll just stick with Frodo:).
Frodo’s great. Aslan is great. And if you ever want another Christian allegory about personal sacrifice, redemptive suffering, good triumphing over evil, the dignity of every human life, and the sacrifice Jesus for the salvation of the world, read Harry Potter, too. 👍
 
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For the love of Pete, it’s alright, it’s just fiction. It’s not real
 
It is not a sin to go to that theme park. Seriously catholic higher ups should just stop being paranoid about everything. If you have faith in god and you be aware what is true to your heart then you would know what is right and what is wrong. You then would not having to be hesitant to do something that you know from the bottom line that is not wrong. Seriously i saw someone post a question asking if its OK to do Yoga!! Come on!!. Supposedly some higher up dude said something about the lines of meditation is some how wrong cause is self enlightenment and that is new age thing. Pshhh so your going to tell me when your next to pearly gates in heaven god is going to say “Hmmmm you were a very good person to those in need and always gave more than what you receive so that is very nice of you… oh my… you did yoga? how could you?!”(then he pulls the lever) I am pretty sure God would not be like that.
 
I go to a Catholic school headed by a Cistercian monk. A lot of the teachers are also Cistercian monks. If the Catholic Church was against HP, surely the books wouldn’t be allowed into our library, including an all-Latin version of the first one.
I think Harry Potter in Latin might be the only thing that would motivate me to dig out my old Latin books to actually try and learn Latin.
My opinion is that the books were a delight for me to read as an adult. At some point, I will allow my children to read them. I will not be reading them to my children when they are young, as I will Tolkien and Lewis books.

Full disclosure: I let my daughter dress up as a fairy for Halloween.
I think make believe is an essential element of childhood. I read fantasy and Scifi novels and watched such movies a lot, and yet I’m still a rational, well adjusted, faithful adult. I know I cannot fly and magic wands don’t actually work, and you cannot ride a broom through the air. (though it would be REALLY fun).

Obviously books have to be introduced at the correct age. I would wait until my kids ar older for the Harry Potter, LOTR, etc books, less because of the fantasy element and more because they have some pretty heavy themes about life and death in them and I want my kids to be old enough to discuss those themes with me.
 
A “muggle” can learn to do magic, and well. It is a very different thing to say that there could possibly be other mysterious species who have different powers than we have as humans, than it is to say that humans have the potential to do magic. I do not see that as a fine line, but I do see it as a teachable line.
Uhh… no they can’t. Could you perhaps be confusing Muggles with Squibs? :confused:
(Even Cinderella, earlier cited, could not herself do magic. A fairy had to do it.) I believe that it is possible, and enjoyable, to read the books with a clear understanding that it crosses a line which, should it be crossed in reality rather than fantasy, would be immoral. Full disclosure: I let my daughter dress up as a fairy for Halloween.
FAIRIES!!! spasms

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Is it worse to let our daughters pretend they are princesses. I mean they aren’t and unless their name is Kate Middleton, they probably never will be. What about letting your son dress up in play armor. Make pretend has it’s place and time and is an important step in childhood.

I think there are those who take Harry Potter too far, but you can find those people in ANY fandom in the world. It’s all about how you handle it with yourself and your kids.
 
*** The Church is against Harry Potter…it doesn’t matter if its the book, movie, or a theme park…the Church has warned against it. ***
better be prepared to give an authoritative declaration from the Vatican, not just an interview with a Vatican functionary or some priest who is against the books before you make such a statement about definitive Church teaching.
 
My family and I are going to Florida. Besides obviously celebrating Easter Sunday, we plan to go to the Harry Potter Theme park (not on Easter, though!)

I’m sure most of you are familiar with Harry Potter. But if you’re not, he’s a fictional character in a great adventure-book series about a school of wizardry. It’s just a great fiction series, so it’s not sinful to read, right? I don’t think so.

The series is so popular that Universal Studios built a theme park for it. Well, it’s not sinful for Catholics to visit it, right? I wouldn’t be participating in the cult of witchcraft, right? What if someone wanted a “magic wand” or to make an edible “potion”? Im guessing no for the wand, and yes for the “potion” since it is nothing more than food… (I don’t even know if the potions are there, but it’s just a though in case)

Edit: added some things.
Go and have fun!
 
*** The Church is against Harry Potter…it doesn’t matter if its the book, movie, or a theme park…the Church has warned against it. ***

Go to Bush Gardens or Adventure Island…you’ll have alot more fun:)!!!
This statement is blatantly false. The Church is neither against, nor has it warned anyone against, the Harry Potter Books, Movies or the Theme Park. A very few church people have told people that these books are evil. BUT, to date, not one single person that has made such a “warning” has actually read the books…

Only someone that is ignorant of what those books actually contain, and is fanatical, could possibly believe that there is anything evil in them.

If they are evil, then so are C.S. Lewis’ books.

The Harry Potter series teaches that good prevails over evil; that evil is wrong, even though it entices people; that working hard to combat evil is ALWAYS A GOOD THING, even it it costs you your life; and that in the end, those that are evil WILL receive eternal punishment.
 
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